is this machine legit

[Hell_is_emptY]

not sure if iv posted this in the right section but im currently doing a trade for this machine and not sure if its genuine, anyone got any idea? thanks

[nivek]

ask for serial number - its hard with the spectras because they changed parts even through the same versions

[peezie]

Just solely basing off the photo it looks legit. serial number should be on the other side of that vise though. Best to ask artemis on here. he goes by arte. Just send him a pm with a link here.

[serial1313]

I have never seen a knock-off box before but it doesn't mean it can't happen.

[OwlsDen]

The knock offs have a brass colored top adjustment knob and needle post. This looks legit

[Hell_is_emptY]

cheers everyone, should arrive tomorrow, so many knock off around its hard to spot a real one these days

[serial1313]

You probably should ask before you buy next time.

[skinmech]

You need to ask as many questions as possible to verify authenticity, prior to purchase/trade, and, yep, even the boxes are copied...

[Hell_is_emptY]

the guy assured me it was genuine a few times, theres only so much i can ask, just gotta hope for the best i guess

[serial1313]

the guy assured me it was genuine a few times, theres only so much i can ask, just gotta hope for the best i guess I meant ask on here like you did but before you make a purchase if you can.

[No Iron Machines]

that the GIVE SIETME work is AUTENTIC, all the STYGMA HYPER v.2 from CHINA the give sistem not work

[Colby]

I've never heard of a fake with a serial number nor an authentic machine without one.

[Panos tattoo]

To start with you ask questions and do your research before the transaction as the guys said.
2nd you never ask the seller.you dont know him/her and you may be speaking to a person that has a very good reputation and a question like this may insult him/her.there are people here with nicknames or you may know their company/brand/shop but not their full name.
If its a con your answer will always be yes so no need to ask.
Now to do the research, first person you ask is the builder of the machine.they can spot a fake from 100 yards. In your case an email to stigma would have solved all your questions.
IF and i say IF theydont they dont reply in 2 days (in my experience within hours ) you ask in the forum.most of the buiders are members here and lots of people have the experience to give an answer.
Now if Athena (Athena is female by the way)sees it and tells you its a fake you would be in deep shit.
so keep these in mind for your next sale or trade.
;)