dan kubin Sidecranker

[brandonmull]

Have one on the way, will post review soon.,

[nivek]

Ditto - as well as a sidewinder 2

[brandonmull]

This machine is so tiny and solid! It is quiet when ran and seems very strong! it runs 7 lines like nothing, just draw and the ink is in! Dan made an amazing machine with this! For all the talk of the sidewinder, these next generations are unbelievable!!!!!!!

[brandonmull]

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[OwlsDen]

So what is the difference between this and the sidewinder.

[nivek]

The side winder doesnt have the fixed "connector". The cam on the sidewinder hits a spring that drives it (almost same as before but now you can see it). Both now have fixed stoke lengths - 3
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[OwlsDen]

So this uses the same give as the old cranker? Is there a benefit over the cranker? Does the side pulling crank arm eliminate some vibration?

[nivek]

Yes and no. Hes coming out with a new cranker as well. The benefit is there is adjustment for both hit and stoke, as opposed to just stoke. Also lighter than MC


http://dankubin.com/category/maintenance/

First two videos on this page should answer most questions.

[brandonmull]

it doesn't vibrate at all really, it has 3 adjustment points for stroke length and a way to make it hit "hard" or have a bit of give. this machine is very smooth and even loaded with a inch tube and needle it weighs as much as the sidewinder without a tube. it is very light!!

[nivek]

The new ones are 3.25 oz... As compared to 5.5 oz

[brandonmull]

I used it all day, lined , color, shaded, this machine can smoothly , quietly handle it all!

[Joshuarowlands]

Anyone use this for black and grey yet


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[nivek]

I have a sidewinder 2 Dan tuned for black and grey, It's a Dream! I haven't touched any other machine since I got my sidewinders and sidecranker.

The only thing I can say is Dan makes improvements with each generation - they keep getting better and better, the fact that the sidewinders are cheaper than gen 1 (different motor) easy to adjust and they seem to stay in tune better.

Sound and feel like a coil, and soooo light.

Sidecrankers are colour packing BEASTS ! I used it for lining and it was just a dream. If you have the cash I suggest one of each or even better two winders (one set up for b and g).

If I was to work a convention tomorrow I would take these three machines and have no doubt I would have everything I need.
I have always been a fan of the sidewinders (had one tuned for shading and two for lining). Opened the box and tattooed with the cranker and winder immediately without skipping a beat.

[brandonmull]

I absolutely love this tiny little machine!!!!!!

[brandonmull]

This machine runs anything i have connected to it so very smoothly. It is almost silent. and so little vibration that it is my favorite machine.

[Tattooalleypa]

I just got the side cranked last week and it's great for black and grey but I can't get this thing to pack color at all like people say it does...I run it around 6.5 volts and use Eternal, Waverly and Fantasia ink. Any help would be great thanks.

[nivek]

I just got the side cranked last week and it's great for black and grey but I can't get this thing to pack color at all like people say it does...I run it around 6.5 volts and use Eternal, Waverly and Fantasia ink. Any help would be great thanks.

Try slowing it down, I run mine around 5 (mind you I tend to run em slow and low) and it packs like a beast. I can't imagine trying to tattoo at 6.5

[Tattooalleypa]

Try slowing it down, I run mine around 5 (mind you I tend to run em slow and low) and it packs like a beast. I can't imagine trying to tattoo at 6.5
I was talking to Dan and he said to run it around 6.5 but I will definitely try slower! Thanks
Frank

[darkness]

6.5 is too much and you get a lot of spitting issue ... i go from 5.5 to 6v maximum - 6.5 feeling to much for me

[Ofeloner]

I run mine beyween 5.0-6.0

[Tattooalleypa]

Well I did 3 tattoos with it today and between 5-5.5 it ran good and put in the ink good. I have to be honest still not as good as the original rotary works machines do but it did work so thanks for your help everyone.

[Ofeloner]

Well I did 3 tattoos with it today and between 5-5.5 it ran good and put in the ink good. I have to be honest still not as good as the original rotary works machines do but it did work so thanks for your help everyone.

Maybe try changeing the stroke on it?.I run a lot of rotaryworks aswell..and I'm surprised your not mind blown by the sidecranker, it has magic..

[Tattooalleypa]

Are you guys using it ridged or with some give?

[Ofeloner]

Ridged..I try it with give the other day and it was completely fucked, in my opinion..but I never use give except a lil for lineing, but I have no use for give with the side cranker..never again will I try the give..lol..

[Tattooalleypa]

The nut that came with mine doesn't have the lip so I can't use it ridged until I get a new one from Dan

[brandonmull]

Mine didn't come with a nut at all.

[Tattooalleypa]

Mine didn't come with a nut at all.
Look at his website and it has a link to the video where he shows you the nut and difference.

[Ofeloner]

Mine didn't come with a nut either,, he stopped makin em with a nut,, its a lil piece of plastic that slips out of the armeture bar,, its black..

[brandonmull]

The little oring?

[nivek]

small oring

[Tattooalleypa]

I talked to him and he is sending me a new nut... I think I got the last of the old kind

[peter clements]

Mine didn't come with a nut either,, he stopped makin em with a nut,, its a lil piece of plastic that slips out of the armeture bar,, its black..

It resembles a top-hat grommet . The Cranker armature is basically a tube with a rod in it , stop the rod's flexion within the tube and you have no give, on the old ones they were threaded ,so you tightened yhe plastic nut and the flexion was stopped, the little plastic top hat is much more simple and reliable.

[Tattooalleypa]

Has anyone tried the MC15? Is that better than the sidecrankers?

[Joshuarowlands]

I would like an answer to that question myself ^

[wigmondo]

I've got a side cranker on order and it should be arriving on Wednesday, on Dan's site he says it's good for small to medium size lines, but can also be used for bigger lines too, has anybody had any experience of using one with 9rl upwards ?

[artoftatt2]

It will push anything


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[Joshuarowlands]

Personally wasn't a fan of this machine. I gave it two months of trial and error and it seemed difficult to color with. I had successful results doing smooth black and grey with it, but I just snagged his mc15 and it's the best color packer I've ever used. Really enjoy it.


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[Tattooalleypa]

Personally wasn't a fan of this machine. I gave it two months of trial and error and it seemed difficult to color with. I had successful results doing smooth black and grey with it, but I just snagged his mc15 and it's the best color packer I've ever used. Really enjoy it.


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What are you setting the stroke at and what voltage are you running the MC15 at?
Thanks
Frank

[Joshuarowlands]

Standard 4.0 stroke, rigid hit, 6-6.5 volts


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