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Rotar
06-27-2011, 02:47 PM
Hi to all

Greetings from the Philippines : ]

I am Nin Neri, and i would like to introduce the Rotar, Its already available for custom colors, frame and its components... . .
Please click here (http://ninnerity.webs.com/GEDC0972.JPG) to check out, thanks.

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thanks

Nin
Rotar Machine

tattoo4satan
06-27-2011, 02:58 PM
i like the name rotar. i can picture it saying "Rotar angry" or "Rotar hungry". or a bunch of people worshiping Rotar in some crazy temple where they offer human sacrafices to it.

Rotar
06-27-2011, 03:22 PM
Rotar - n. to turn. to spin. :]




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Rotar
06-27-2011, 03:26 PM
thank you . . . peace and love . . . .

slicksteel
06-27-2011, 03:29 PM
this looks alot better then the prototype,i like the looks of the chuck! what is the motor voltage range and is it swiss etc.?

Rotar
06-27-2011, 03:38 PM
The Rotar

- Handbuilt Aircraft Aluminum Shell
- Patent Pending RotarStance
- Aerodynamic and Ergonomic
- Virtually Silent and Low Vibration
- Perfect Balance
- Featherlite 2.1oz.
- 10v Japan Motor (lifetime warranty)
- Swash Motion
- 3.5mm Stroke
- RCA Connection
- Customizable Colors.
- Limited Edition
- Made in the Philippines

Rotar
06-27-2011, 03:53 PM
thanks, nominal range is 6V

gangstajay
06-27-2011, 03:55 PM
looks nice.. do you have any video of it in action..??

tattoosbychriselement.com
06-27-2011, 05:04 PM
whats the website we can purchase and whats the cosT?

Mr.Taboo
06-27-2011, 08:01 PM
i like the name rotar. i can picture it saying "Rotar angry" or "Rotar hungry". or a bunch of people worshiping Rotar in some crazy temple where they offer human sacrafices to it.
Sounded more like a He-Man Character to me. (http://www.he-man.org/collecting/toy.php?id=1286)
But seriously the machine looks interesting though it does seem a bit tall.

Dreviltattoo
06-27-2011, 09:52 PM
reminds me of swashdrive with a vertical motor. japanese motor? not too educated on those. i know the swiss knock it out of the park...ie. stigma, dragonfly (maxon motors). looks interesting and super lite. i like light, but the lighter they get the more i have to push on darker pigments and the ever feared elephant skinned humans. i wonder if the rca off the top would be annoying or actually help. HAIL TO THE ROTAR GODS! LOL

Rotar
06-28-2011, 01:09 AM
hi, i will post videos soon, once we have anodized the machines. no price yet... you can customize colors for the frame and components and you can customize the cuts of the motor cover, it must be round holes going up and down, sideways and diagonal. . . 1 week for the custom job. thanks - undone website at http://www.rotarmachine.com - it will be up when the colored rotars are done.

Rotar
06-28-2011, 01:14 AM
hi, thanks, the RCA at the back helps since it is away from the machine thus the wires will not disturb you while at work... also these japan motors are of lifetime warranty. very durable. the little weight of the motor helps put pressure on your work and it will provide your hands an effortless work...

Rotar
06-28-2011, 01:16 AM
thank you very much

Cthulhu73
06-28-2011, 01:28 AM
Looks cool not sure I like the screw on the bottom of the chuck but I will keep an eye on this one. Though to be honest Its going to be real hard to put down the dragonflys long enough to try a new machine.

Rotar
06-28-2011, 01:49 AM
thanks, the screw at the bottom at the back provides a perfect balance for the machine, it can stand if u put it in a surface. also it can also work to rest the machine on your finger and if you do not use it to rest your finger, it is right enough to be ergonomic still... another new one to work with. : ]

The Limey
06-28-2011, 06:14 PM
Looking forward to seeing a video of it in action.

Rotar
06-28-2011, 08:06 PM
yeah, will post video very soon . . . excited to post them on ; ]

fkirons
06-29-2011, 02:32 AM
Hmmm I think you and I know each other from somewhere....

Rotar
06-29-2011, 08:46 AM
hmmmmmmmmmm, yeah i think so . . . hahaha from facebook...
here are the Rotar in plain mirror finish...
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slicksteel
06-29-2011, 11:48 AM
is this going to run like the older swashdrives as i notice there is no clip-is there a bearing in the needle mount area? as that had a lot of problems.

Rotar
06-29-2011, 12:59 PM
no, we will not use this guide, we just created 2 to test out. we have come up with a different guide. . . only 2pcs built for this... and our next guide would be new. we have to lessen the sound. . . :) thank you . . .

Rattus
06-30-2011, 12:43 PM
Inverted swash...interesting. This does look a lot better than the proto posted before.
Nothing for rubber bands/elastics? Not to sure about the vertical RCA, unless one had a right angle cord.

Rotar
06-30-2011, 09:22 PM
thanks rattydaddy, i havent seen the old proto posted here before. this is made to match with needle runners. i can make a new frame with rubber band stay if its really necessary... the rca on top helps keep the cord away from your work. . . :) here is the first prototype we made.
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Rattus
06-30-2011, 09:28 PM
My 2cents: don't alienate potential customers. Add something for rubber bands, even if it's a add-on that can be removed if not wanted.





thanks rattydaddy, i havent seen the old proto posted here before. this is made to match with needle runners. i can make a new frame with rubber band stay if its really necessary... the rca on top helps keep the cord away from your work. . . :) here is the first prototype we made.
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Rotar
07-01-2011, 02:22 AM
thanks for that good and important thing to consider again rattydaddy. :) sure thing im gonna add a stay for the rubber band. some frames may have no stay and some may have... thanks again :) i appreciate a lot. . .

Indio Ink
07-01-2011, 01:29 PM
Any chance you'd have a dual (clipchord/rca) version?

Rotar
07-01-2011, 01:35 PM
Indio, well, maybe i come up with a dual connection... right now it is optional for RCA and clipcord but i will try to make a way where to position the dual... thanks, great input. . . :)

andrewc
07-01-2011, 10:41 PM
for elastics couldnt you almost just dremmel to grooves in the back just above the vise handle? then just double up the one elastic around instead of using 2 elastics? seems like a simple little mod that could be made into another decorative yet practical function almost like those purple predator grips with all the groves to have an elastic close to the needle grouping

andrewc
07-01-2011, 10:42 PM
and i gotta say i really dig the look of the proto type too but i like the looks of the more rugged style than the stream line

Derby Bel
07-02-2011, 03:09 AM
This looks like a really interesting machine. Can't wait to see the video of it in action.

Indio Ink
07-02-2011, 11:07 AM
for elastics couldnt you almost just dremmel to grooves in the back just above the vise handle? then just double up the one elastic around instead of using 2 elastics? seems like a simple little mod that could be made into another decorative yet practical function almost like those purple predator grips with all the groves to have an elastic close to the needle grouping

This sounds like a better alternative:D

Rotar
07-03-2011, 12:55 AM
thanks all... yeah what i have in mind is just a grove or trim in the stand to hold the rubberbands... wonderful input. yeah i really have to post some video very very soon. its almost coming. thanks a lot. . . :)

katribu
07-03-2011, 01:51 PM
nice one...

Rotar
07-04-2011, 02:21 AM
ROTAR Machine
Serial Black


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Derby Bel
07-04-2011, 05:23 AM
Very nice. Love the look of this machine.

Rotar
07-04-2011, 07:42 AM
Rotar Machine Video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n50TfuAegG0

This is preliminary video taken from the machine shop.
We will post more videos in real tattoo action inside our tattoo studio very very soon...
^^sorry for the big rubber band coiled in the stand...^^
Thank y'all :)

Indio Ink
07-04-2011, 08:45 AM
Cool! getting mine tomorrow, thanks meng!

machineboy80
07-04-2011, 10:54 AM
nice men good stuff i like the look and 2.1 man that od well lets c a tattoo

fkirons
07-04-2011, 05:44 PM
it looks like it has a very short stroke. what are the specs.
Is the swash plate anchored to a bearing after making connection (to stabilize it and protect the axel) or is just clamped from the motor axle?

fkirons
07-04-2011, 05:45 PM
I made a similar design but with slider. I would Try using a smaller motor like a 21600 from maxon.

Rotar
07-04-2011, 08:55 PM
its 3.5mm stroke. the swash plate is screwed to the shaft...

Specs are:

- Handbuilt Aircraft Aluminum Shell
- Patent Pending RotarStance
- Aerodynamic and Ergonomic
- Virtually Silent and Low Vibration
- Perfect Balance
- Featherlite 2.1oz.
- 10v Japan Motor
- Swash Motion
- 3.5mm Stroke
- RCA Connection
- Customizable Colors.
- Limited Edition
- Lifetime Warranty
- Made in the Philippines

Rotar
07-04-2011, 08:59 PM
yeah i already come up with a slider as well, it is in my drawing and it has many other new features...

Indio Ink
07-10-2011, 12:00 PM
ANy updates on the machine bro?"D

Indio Ink
07-10-2011, 12:16 PM
By this I mean.. Im excited to see the new ones.:D

Rotar
07-11-2011, 03:07 AM
NEW ROTAR MACHINE
bro here is the official Rotar Transition to come, it is now on adjustable stroke length... and it will come in different colors...
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spoonertattoos
07-11-2011, 04:45 AM
I was siked on this design till I saw that last pic. Whats up with the smiley face? yuck. I like the casing of the old one. im also not a fan of that sparkly coil cover. Anyone else agree with me here?

whats the price on this with shipping to the US ?

The Limey
07-11-2011, 04:48 AM
I was siked on this design till I saw that last pic. Whats up with the smiley face? yuck. Anyone else agree with me here?

If you read the thread I think that's just showing how you can have a custom design on the motor housing if you wanted one, not that every machine has a smiley face on it.

Rotar
07-11-2011, 05:37 AM
ahahaha... spooner your funny... yeah, that smiley face was just a trip... and its a a smile for perfection. we just had this machine run perfect, smooth with a roller on the driver abar... and it has a manual adjustable stroke length. yes, we offer custom motor covers that can be done using a drill. intro price is $370 with free shipping to US with lifetime warranty. :) it will be launched in an international convention by august here in the philippines.

Rotar
07-11-2011, 05:43 AM
also we will not use this sparkling covers anymore. we are coming with plain color covers or we can comeup with a different cover. :)

spoonertattoos
07-11-2011, 06:00 AM
nice! than I back to excited and really interested to hear some reviews. anyone here getting one? I just bought a springer from Dan Kubin and am waiting for my bishop, so Im gonna wait another month or so before getting anything else.

peter clements
07-11-2011, 08:01 AM
[QUOTE=spoonertattoos;11899]I was siked on this design till I saw that last pic. Whats up with the smiley face? yuck. I like the casing of the old one. im also not a fan of that sparkly coil cover. Anyone else agree with me here?

I like the face-looks like a robot. Regarding motor cover, I've no doubt you can have what you want,same as Franco does with the Bishop. It'd be nice to see a clipcord adaptor for the machine.

Rotar
07-11-2011, 08:07 AM
this is one sample of the anodized version with plain motor cover... 3315

Rotar
07-11-2011, 08:24 AM
thanks peter. yeah i have to comeup with a clipcord option on our new build, we will definitely see rotars in clipcord. :) what is more preferable? Both with RCA and Clipcord or optional RCA/Clipcord? :)

Mr.Taboo
07-11-2011, 08:37 AM
Personally I'm a fan of the dual clip/rca. Gives more options in a pinch also if you want to let a friend try it or if/when the time comes to sell you'll have more buyers interested.

peter clements
07-11-2011, 08:43 AM
personally i'm a fan of the dual clip/rca. Gives more options in a pinch also if you want to let a friend try it or if/when the time comes to sell you'll have more buyers interested.

ditto!

Rotar
07-11-2011, 01:53 PM
Personally I'm a fan of the dual clip/rca. Gives more options in a pinch also if you want to let a friend try it or if/when the time comes to sell you'll have more buyers interested.
Yeah thanks man! i think so, thats very important. or i make 3 config, RCA, RCA/Clipcord & Clipcord? We will see which config are most favorable to all. . .

The Limey
07-11-2011, 02:17 PM
Yeah thanks man! i think so, thats very important. or i make 3 config, RCA, RCA/Clipcord & Clipcord? We will see which config are most favorable to all. . .

Just go with the RCA/Clipcord version as it works for everyone.

Rotar
07-11-2011, 02:45 PM
yeah, maybe a lot better, thank u... :)

spoonertattoos
07-12-2011, 02:16 AM
I'm finding that most machines are better suited for one thing purpose over the other even if you can technically do everything with it. What would you say is the best thing for this machine shading coloring or lining?

Rotar
07-12-2011, 09:17 AM
right now it is best for lining and color... but it can also work good with shading as you can adjust the stroke length manually... soon when the advance rotar will come, it will have so many new and useful features... :)
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Cyberitual
07-13-2011, 10:33 AM
Looks really nice rotar! It's cool how similar our machines are, any complaints about its length?

Rotar
07-13-2011, 09:25 PM
thanks cyber. yeah they are almost same in proportion. . . about the length it works well as it has a perfect balance. the little weight on top helps carry your work without putting pressure on every tattoo. its just like tattooing with a pen. :)

tattoo4satan
07-15-2011, 06:41 PM
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here's a pic of the legendary lord rotar

Alie K
07-15-2011, 07:35 PM
Hahaha! I like that it has a happy face.

slicksteel
07-16-2011, 02:07 PM
praise lord rotar ,praise lord rotar! for he bring us art and less hand cramps!

Rotar
07-16-2011, 02:17 PM
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here's a pic of the legendary lord rotar
hahahah. thats so funny my friend...

Cyberitual
07-17-2011, 01:38 AM
yes the length has a big issue with the balance of the machine in our hands. Im sure yours feels really simular in balance aswell. Nice machining, do you have a hook up or does it not cost alot to make in the philippines? Its not cheap out in Southern California thats for sure...

Rotar
07-17-2011, 04:04 AM
It is just perfectly balanced though. but im trying to change the RCA to the side since RCA jacks and cords are sometimes big and it adds weight on top of the machine. You might be carrying the weight of the cord on top, so i think i have to transfer it on the back side. The machining cost a lot too even if my uncle owns the machine shop. And we get our aluminum 7075 material from the US. Shipping costs high too. http://www.rotarmachine.webs.com/images/rotar111.jpg

Cyberitual
07-17-2011, 11:40 AM
When I made the housing for mine I was scrapping more aluminium then I was using and wasn't going to be cost effective, die casting cost to much to refine the parts. I like plastics though, they absorb sound and vibration really well. I need a uncle like that :( nice work rotar, I put you on my trade list.

Rotar
07-17-2011, 09:34 PM
When I made the housing for mine I was scrapping more aluminium then I was using and wasn't going to be cost effective, die casting cost to much to refine the parts. I like plastics though, they absorb sound and vibration really well. I need a uncle like that :( nice work rotar, I put you on my trade list.

thanks cyber, i would love to do a trade and own a centri soon... yeah that's why i made a plastic model for CNC, same rotar style, with new design and contours and hope it will be out by september... it has lots of new features too... :) im excited for it...

DavidEngbaek
07-18-2011, 07:46 PM
looks potentially to be the next big thing...build it the way you want,you cant make everyone happy.

Rotar
07-18-2011, 11:28 PM
thanks man. even if i did not intend to be the next big thing, but definitely i would love to see my progress as time goes by...

OwlsDen
11-14-2011, 08:50 PM
Any news? The website still says coming soon. I would love to hear an update.

andrewc
11-15-2011, 06:44 AM
http://www.northstartattoosupply.com/secret/produitsnew-english.php good to see someone gonna be supplying for you too :) very nice machine!

andrewc
11-15-2011, 10:42 PM
and also http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROTAR-Tattoo-Machine-/260894814076?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cbe8aef7c
jump all over it guys its slick lookin

slicksteel
11-15-2011, 11:50 PM
got mine coming in

Sage Oz
11-22-2011, 01:16 AM
I just placed my first bid on the Ebay listing, so hope I win, looks like a sweet design.

Rotar
11-22-2011, 06:10 AM
thanks everyone for keeping us alive in this forum. i just get back here with so much busy thing on my side. how good that some people can easily notice updates on any website. Our machines will be present also in the Berlin Show this coming December 2, 2011... im happy to be back and keep the conversation. :)

biggboy
11-22-2011, 07:52 AM
thanks everyone for keeping us alive in this forum. i just get back here with so much busy thing on my side. how good that some people can easily notice updates on any website. Our machines will be present also in the Berlin Show this coming December 2, 2011... im happy to be back and keep the conversation. :)
kumusta ka na??some very nice machines you got there..

Sage Oz
11-22-2011, 02:31 PM
Yay, it's mine!! All mine BRU-HaHaHa!!! Well at least after I pay for it lol. Sorry kids, no Xmas toys this year, daddy needs more machines ;D

Rotar
11-23-2011, 12:15 PM
hey bro, ok naman dito . . . salamat . .

Rotar
11-26-2011, 09:52 AM
Sage, thanks a lot. . . :)

Sage Oz
11-26-2011, 01:54 PM
Thank you! I'm excited to be upgrading my arsenal ;)
I'll get that PayPal to you ASAP. What color choices are available? A black body with gold hardware would look pretty pimp

Rotar
11-28-2011, 12:23 AM
oh im really sorry but we really ran out f black frames, even black hardwares are gone. all we have are all colors except for the black :)

Sage Oz
11-28-2011, 02:46 AM
How about green frame with green hardware? Btw, I'll have that PayPal to you today, I apologize for the delay, Xmas finances and all...

Rotar
12-01-2011, 08:50 AM
Thanks sage :)

Rotar
12-03-2011, 10:22 AM
Our New Rotar Shift*

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Sage Oz
01-15-2012, 06:53 AM
Hey Nin, where have you been?

aurelien
01-15-2012, 10:40 AM
Is there any review on those new rotar shifts ?

Sage Oz
01-15-2012, 02:54 PM
I'm still waiting on delivery of mine, be sure I'll use and review it soon as it arrives.

flaco
01-16-2012, 07:42 AM
got to use one for a couple of weeks and it lined amazingly. the rubber band size and were the hell to put it sucked. the adjustment screws for the throw and give are an amazing idea but needs a self locking set screw.. watched the front screw back out during a tattoo. and the tube vice needs to be completely redesigned. loved it otner than that. just an honest opinion to hopefully improve your product..

tattoodup12
07-11-2012, 10:48 PM
i have an older rotar and i was wondering if there is anyway to switch up the bodies. i love the machine dearly but i use disposable tubes and even after workin the old tube vise it takes so long to setup that its been getting used less and less. i hate to sell it

Sage Oz
07-12-2012, 01:40 AM
i have an older rotar and i was wondering if there is anyway to switch up the bodies. i love the machine dearly but i use disposable tubes and even after workin the old tube vise it takes so long to setup that its been getting used less and less. i hate to sell it

Nin is apparently producing now the first batch of Rotar Shift3s. He mentioned last we heard from him that he'd be voluntarily replacing, free of charge, any older Rotar for a new one when he has them ready. The shift2 has some definite quirks quirks, tube vise and sloppy slider and adjustment screws. The new version addresses these issues I hope with resolution. The new vise is still a twist nut :( but at least it's reversed sex (more like a Neuma) so should be easier to work. Not sure if he changed the diameter or pinch variables. The adjusting knob is easier to use and spring loaded. Looks more solid too.



Sent from a galaxy far, far away...

tattoodup12
07-12-2012, 02:03 AM
oooh nice. was there any ETA on that?

throwhammers
07-12-2012, 02:44 AM
oooh nice. was there any ETA on that?
Yeah, it was supposed to be May. Now it's "Hey sorry, please be patient."

jesoner79
07-12-2012, 03:11 AM
so now i see why u want it lol

Sage Oz
07-12-2012, 10:44 AM
Yup, I'm hoping to (eventually) get an upgrade:)


Sent from a galaxy far, far away...

slicksteel
07-12-2012, 12:26 PM
I don't know how he could give away free machines to used aftermarket buyers and stay in business.
He would lose a lot of money.:confused: Maybe to the original buyer/owner as a trade in -in which he could sell the originals at a low used price after a refurb.

vodu
07-12-2012, 01:14 PM
Aerodynamic and Ergonomic?
well, i donīt think i want to fly across the city with a machine in my hands...lol
but, nice machine.

peter clements
07-12-2012, 02:01 PM
There has been so much negative "fiasco" around this machine ,that I can honestly say, I have no interest in it whatsoever- you'd have to give me one for free before I'd give it a go.

tattoodup12
07-12-2012, 02:09 PM
i have one and they tattoo amazing! well worth it. the tube vice on the older model just lacks. he revised it in his newest model. i cant wait!