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OwlsDen
10-22-2011, 02:23 PM
So what is the machine with the lowest running DB rating? I am asking about loaded with needle and tube and actually tattooing. Not the just attached to a powersupply and running. I know the real swash drive is pretty quiet. As is the Cheyenne. But what about the others? Any suggestions?

Mr.Taboo
10-22-2011, 02:32 PM
NeoTat is the quietest machine of the three rotaries that I have.

gangstajay
10-22-2011, 02:36 PM
yes the bishop and neo tats, my brass RW is damm quiet also.. the gen 6 was

DavidEngbaek
10-22-2011, 02:48 PM
i think my Dragonfly is quieter than my hawk

OwlsDen
10-22-2011, 03:37 PM
yes the bishop and neo tats, my brass RW is damm quiet also.. the gen 6 wasThe Neo Tat or the New Neo Tat Vivace? I am really considering a Neo Tat. I think I want the older one though. I think it was lighter.

wildboy
10-22-2011, 04:32 PM
The Bishop is very silent but my Swiss Rotary is almost noiseless

OwlsDen
10-22-2011, 04:45 PM
I have limited experience with rotaries. I have played with a real swash gen 6 and a fake one, I liked them both but thought of them as black and grey machines. I want a machine for lining that is quiet. I have played with a Swiss machine but only to run it not to tattoo with it. I also didn't think of it as a liner. The Bishop and the Neo ( both similar in concept I think ) seem like good liner machines. It may seem strange but one of the biggest selling points of rotaries is how quiet they are.

Deakon
10-22-2011, 04:57 PM
Hawks are pretty much silent. The quietest I have come across.

Invertedpixel
10-22-2011, 05:01 PM
from my experience it's a tie btween the Whip and the Neo Tat

OwlsDen
10-22-2011, 05:18 PM
I like the Hawk, but I hate that the tubes aren't reall autoclave able. As the more you clean them the sooner they break. And the cost too damn much. I can almost get on board with the expensive needle cartridges but too much money for the grips. Neo Tat really looks like the best bet. Thank you guys so much. What is your suggestion? The original or the Vivace? The Vivace is heavier right?

Administrator
10-22-2011, 11:20 PM
Vivace is lighter.

OwlsDen
10-23-2011, 12:02 AM
Vivace is lighter.Even better.

Alie K
10-23-2011, 01:56 AM
My Roy Richardson direct drive is very quiet too.

aedmonds
10-23-2011, 12:49 PM
I only have a neotat and treasure chest. The Neotat is quieter.

OwlsDen
10-23-2011, 01:47 PM
I am pretty certain that I am going to try and get a Neo Tat Vivace. I wrote Ray today and asked about shipping to Germany.

Gabetexas
10-23-2011, 01:51 PM
Out of the three Ive used, (Bishop, Org. Neotat, & my new one off) the Bisho and Neotat are side by side the quietest.

Dan Kubin
10-25-2011, 10:10 PM
a direct drive is going to be the quietest. there is no friction in the mechanism except in the tube with the needle. they make good liners for 7's and below.
I prefer them more for 5's and below, but others swear by them for 8's and 9's.
everybody's hand's are a bit different, and can make or break the performance.

OwlsDen
10-26-2011, 11:07 AM
Yeah and I am on the fence about rotaries still. I don't have much experience with them. Well nothing recent. I used one a long time ago and there was a slight wobble to it. So I had to make all of lines moving left and right as the wobble would affect the line width. Now I also had never used a diamond tip back then and barely had a clue as to what I was doing. So I am sure my inexperience then had a lot to do with it. Now I have a lot of tattooing experience and want to try again. Last direct drive rotary I have used was in the 90s. Since I have played with a swash some for shadding, and thought it was brilliant but still felt like it was only suited for shadding.

Dan Kubin
10-27-2011, 06:59 PM
there is deffinately more than an up and down motion that goes in to making a good liner.

OwlsDen
10-27-2011, 07:12 PM
Yes of course and I can see the benifit to a machine with an armature and spring as the action would be closer to a coil machine. What are the benefits of direct drive? What do your machines have that others don't?

rmethric55
11-01-2011, 10:12 PM
The swiss is the quietest machine on the market. It sounds like a small fan humming.

Scratchdog
11-04-2011, 05:25 AM
must say red dragonfly is even quieter than purple dragonfly and neo tat p.

throwhammers
11-04-2011, 07:20 AM
One more vote for the swiss. Everyone in the shop Im in uses them exclusively. Four people working and it just looks like everyones staring really hard at the client. No noise.
I tried a dragonfly, and as soon as I turned it on, someone 25 feet away asked if I was using a coil (in jest, of course, but it was considerably louder than the swiss).

OwlsDen
11-04-2011, 07:32 AM
Well throwhammers if someone decides to part with one, let me know. I'd like to try one

wildboy
11-04-2011, 08:57 AM
Well throwhammers if someone decides to part with one, let me know. I'd like to try one

Theres one on ebay.de again did you see it? http://www.ebay.de/itm/Swiss-Made-Rotary-Tattoomaschine-/130594643753?pt=K%C3%BCnstlerbedarf&hash=item1e680c1f29

OwlsDen
11-04-2011, 09:49 AM
Yes, I am not in a hurry. I am trying to avoid eBay also. Got burned on a power supply on there.

DR.MYK
11-04-2011, 06:12 PM
Neo tat.

darkness
11-09-2011, 03:01 PM
i love my whip over all

G.Graves
11-11-2011, 12:35 AM
Definitely not the treasure chest!!! That thing is loud, my neo vivace is super quite!!!!!! Love that thing:)

pert
11-11-2011, 08:29 PM
this whip sure is a lovely runner,and quite,but wthout losing that hit.....if ya know what i mean.?