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Nedz
04-04-2012, 06:00 PM
The new machine will be available on the web site later this month.

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I still offer a 20 percent dicount to forum members and any one that bought a previous version and would like clip cord connectors and I will add them for free.

If anyone is near London around the 21st and 22nd of April I am exhibiting at The Great British Tattoo Convention. I have a large booth with 5 artists working in different styles using my machines.

Bishopbyname
04-04-2012, 06:20 PM
Just to clarify what are the updates Ed? My apprentice loves her machine and i told her to wait for the updated version before buying a 2nd one.

tatu richie
04-04-2012, 06:39 PM
u can see what the updates are bishop... ed how much are they u.s. dollars?

Nedz
04-04-2012, 06:43 PM
Slightly shorter frame
New tube vice
New needlebar tensioner
Clip cord connectors
More adjustment on spring to give greater range of tension
Frames have a gloss finish for easier cleaning
Motor starts working at 2.4 volts
Option to upgrade motor to faulhaber 17mm motor.

Nedz
04-04-2012, 06:49 PM
To forum members 240 pounds or 380 dollars.

Bishopbyname
04-04-2012, 06:56 PM
Sweet. How much would the upgraded motor cost?

Nedz
04-05-2012, 04:12 PM
I will have to sort of some prices with Faulhaber but about £60.

Bishopbyname
04-05-2012, 04:52 PM
Ok Ed cheers. Could make all the difference i think.

No Iron Machines
04-06-2012, 06:09 AM
Hello, the machines look greats, just wanna know they have sty-up spring ? The needles stop inside the tip or whatever ????

Greets....

Nedz
04-07-2012, 06:19 PM
I dont use a spring to keep the needle inside the tip in this model but I may introduce it in the next batch.

asA
04-07-2012, 09:49 PM
My 2 cents is there is no need for a stay up spring...all the machines I've tinkered with run better without them. I really dont understand their purpose.

Sekt
04-07-2012, 09:54 PM
My 2 cents is there is no need for a stay up spring...all the machines I've tinkered with run better without them. I really dont understand their purpose.

Their purpose is to keep the needle in the tube when the machine stops =]

asA
04-07-2012, 10:09 PM
Their purpose is to keep the needle in the tube when the machine stops =] haha yeah but what advantage does that give? I guess I've been using neumas and such for too long.

Sekt
04-07-2012, 10:12 PM
I'm really good at pointing out the obvious lol!
A needle hanging out is not just not safe in my opinion, its a hazard.

asA
04-07-2012, 10:18 PM
I'm really good at pointing out the obvious lol!
A needle hanging out is not just not safe in my opinion, its a hazard. like incase you're not paying attention?

Sekt
04-07-2012, 10:27 PM
like incase you're not paying attention?
Shit no Asa, you should ALWAYS pay attention when tattooing. I really suggest you do this its important. I mean a hazard like when you are using another machine for example, and the machine is resting on the table, the needle if exposed is prone to picking up dirt from the air and so on.

asA
04-07-2012, 10:38 PM
Haha... I only pay attention some of the time.... that same dirt in the air is gunna get there regardless of the needle hanging out or not. And maybe pay attention where you set you machine down? And so on.

Sekt
04-07-2012, 10:44 PM
I suppose that is true- when setting the machine down, might not notice the needle tipped of something. The needle point microscopically is very delicate, and tattooing someone with a damaged needle isn't good. Course if the needle is in the tube, that can't happen.

jesoner79
04-07-2012, 10:48 PM
i thinks its better to have the spring i personally dont like a whole lot of needle hanging out just so i dont stick myself but thats just me

Sekt
04-07-2012, 11:05 PM
needles are seriously f dangerous, its easy to forget that, I dont like them hanging out either.

asA
04-07-2012, 11:36 PM
needles are seriously f dangerous, its easy to forget that, I dont like them hanging out either. pay attention bro. It's easy to remember.. Needles are dangerous seriously.

tattoosteve
04-08-2012, 06:07 AM
cool

No Iron Machines
04-10-2012, 02:48 PM
is true that most of the ROTARY MACHINE owrk better without a STY UP RPRING, but is also true that normal coils machine always stop needles inside tube, so i think have more sense when the needles stop inside the eube, also are u sure the motor u use have power to work with STY UP SPRING ?

this is sa big problem about some kind of motor, cannot work with STY UP SPRING, becouse not to much power, is very complicate the MOTOR issue on ROTARY MACHINE, that u want a small motor with power, only MAXON and FAULHABER done , other company include MABUCHI that is a good motor they are more bigger when u want have more than 3 watts power....

nivek
04-10-2012, 03:06 PM
Define "normal"... Normal coils do NOT always stop inside the tube. Maybe for you but depending on how you run your machines they can have hang. I have a HUGE hang on my liners, as it allows me to see more, and I assure you they do not end up inside the tube on all my machines.

jesoner79
04-10-2012, 03:11 PM
what he means is a coil machine always stops in the up position and if it doesnt u have a broke spring

skinmech
04-10-2012, 03:35 PM
I don't mind if my Needle stays hanging out when I take my foot off the Gas, I don't Run and Dip, so all I do is Dip the exposed Needle tip in the cap.. I can see both sides of the point, so I will sit on the fence on this one.Needle Stick injury, as has been pointed out, is probably the biggest Potential Hazard..

nivek
04-11-2012, 08:10 PM
what he means is a coil machine always stops in the up position and if it doesnt u have a broke spring

Or you like your needles with alot of hang and a long stroke

Neo
04-11-2012, 10:25 PM
Needle sticking out is no good end of strory lol. I think the regular motor is fine cause those more money motors just add a harder hit IMO so i would rather the mabuch instead.

Neo
04-11-2012, 10:31 PM
Does that price include shipping to usa ? Yes i hope :)

Neo
04-11-2012, 11:14 PM
This is a 6v motor mabuchi correct ? Is there a 12 volt motor that can fit ? Anyone , Ed

Neo
04-30-2012, 05:59 PM
?? :/ :/

Administrator
04-30-2012, 06:12 PM
This is a 6v motor mabuchi correct ? Is there a 12 volt motor that can fit ? Anyone , Ed

Perhaps send him a pm or an email?

Nedz
04-30-2012, 06:24 PM
No its a 3v motor but have some 6v motors available.

jesoner79
04-30-2012, 07:29 PM
Or you like your needles with alot of hang and a long strokeits still up

artoftatt2
04-30-2012, 11:35 PM
This no irons guy is getting on my nerves.. I have a nedz and it rocks.


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Sage Oz
05-01-2012, 02:49 AM
15 years for me here and have yet to stick myself with a needle during the session (I have done it with clean needles will making heads though). Closest call I had was a run over my thumbnail when a girl jumped. Maybe I'm just careful with the tips, but I'm mostly with ASA on this one, for me they usually run better without, and aren't really needed and can put more stress on a motor for no reason other than to be a precaution in case the artist gets careless. I've only got a couple machines with them, one really just for looks, they other is my SantaMaria which came with one and I've henceforth been able to resist tinkering with too much, but it might come out soon. But hey if you feel like you need the stay-up springs then you probably should have em' cause you probably do.

Sage Oz
05-01-2012, 02:55 AM
As far as the Nedz I've yet to own one but they as I've often heard are great machines, well designed and well made. I'm not sure why I just never had the lust for one yet, maybe just the appearance is not my cup of tea?

Bishopbyname
05-01-2012, 04:12 AM
My apprentice loves her Nedz. She's ordered an updated one, looking forward to the feedback about that one. Might be ordering one for myself with the upgraded motor.