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specialtechnique
05-15-2012, 11:46 PM
...still a few bugs to work out on the design...
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Administrator
05-15-2012, 11:57 PM
Bravo! very clever.

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chris higgins
05-16-2012, 02:05 AM
sweet i want to see this run.

Deakon
05-16-2012, 02:49 AM
Looks like it would require some sort of "special technique" to use!

peter clements
05-16-2012, 07:24 AM
This is a first one- I don't know what to say ;).

Wonderland
05-16-2012, 07:49 AM
Oooo. Might be a bit of a challenge to use. But cool concept.

Magnu
05-16-2012, 08:49 AM
Interesting, a spin me rotate you. and I can see bagging being a must with this one any unguarded clipcords/ hair and it will have them.

Sage Oz
05-16-2012, 01:00 PM
Okay I'm lost here? Why make this monstrosity, looks like a Siamese twin and my OCD brain wants to be a surgeon and cut off the weaker twin...

Administrator
05-16-2012, 01:11 PM
Why make this? cause he could... its honestly a first draft but a clever and fun idea that will clearly needs some flushing out.

Sage Oz
05-16-2012, 01:15 PM
I know, but it's seriously silly...

evlink2006
05-16-2012, 01:16 PM
Liner and shader all in one. LOL

The Limey
05-16-2012, 01:24 PM
Be great for that symetrical tribal.

Sage Oz
05-16-2012, 01:32 PM
Shouldn't the 2nd vise be pointing up? That way you can tattoo your own face at the same time;)

specialtechnique
05-16-2012, 10:01 PM
here's a video. 6 minutes of me fussing with the machine. no talking or music. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOLjGKj6ebc&feature=youtu.be

slicksteel
05-16-2012, 10:51 PM
would be cool if ya did one side like 2mm stoke the other 4mm:D

Sage Oz
05-17-2012, 12:44 AM
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05-17-2012, 12:56 AM
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05-17-2012, 12:57 AM
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05-17-2012, 01:02 AM
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specialtechnique
05-17-2012, 03:54 AM
i have reversed a few of our machines, and have almost made them easy for the user to reverse on occasion. a few of my machines are just a couple screws away from switching between a medium stroke AXIS rotary and a giant stroke 'armature rotary.' my main hesitation has always been that i don't work with steel... if an artist switches the machine backwards and forwards 100x they might strip the threads or whatever. i never really wanted to encourage folks to turn screws on my machines, unless it's necessary. here's a couple that got flippy floppy. this was towards the beginning of the slingshot version 3 development. incidentally, these are photos from our 2011 yearbook which i'm currently working on. it'll have around 60 photos from our builds in 2011.
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specialtechnique
05-17-2012, 04:01 AM
now i'm seeing your proposed tube vise. that would be plenty beefy and would hold up well over time. i will definitely need to weld that post on the motor housing out of steel, and welding is not yet in my repertoire. i have a few friends though :] i'm fairly certain i would put all the wiring and CLIPCORD CONTACTS :] on the motor housing, to avoid having to mess with the wiring when switching from liner to shader. i like your idea, it gives me some options i never thought of...

specialtechnique
05-17-2012, 04:06 AM
...and i like your use of 'fore and aft'... this is how i describe the ends of the machine. i don't say the 'top' end of the machine, everyone has a different idea of what that is. i describe a machine like you would describe a ship... the bow, the stern, starboard and port. the tube vise end is the bow...

Sage Oz
05-17-2012, 04:47 AM
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Sage Oz
05-17-2012, 05:05 AM
The motor housing could be aluminum if the the pivot is beefy and has good overlap. I drew in some simple end stops so that the frame can only turn back and forth only 180" and stops at the aligned position, then clamp the pivot tight. The con-rod I think should be mounted on the long stroke side, which would be the liner side with the least flex and dampening. The short stroke side could be on the far end which would have more flex from the carbon rod. Have you guys tried titanium rod instead of carbon? Ti has great spring memory and energy absorption, a titanium bike spoke would work nice...

Sage Oz
05-17-2012, 05:15 AM
D e l e t e d

chris higgins
05-17-2012, 01:53 PM
and what if u put the connector say a rca plug on the bottom maybe inset some and on a piviot so when u switch back and forth u can pivot it to the other side of the machine and out of your hands way? i can sketch it if thats more easy lol. and great idea on the different stroke lengths.

Sage Oz
05-17-2012, 02:10 PM
That'd work too. There's a lot of various ways to attach power, I just drew it the way it'd like it because i like rca it doesn't flop around and is at a nice angle for me and I like a wrap around frame that keeps the bags and cord from touching the moving bits. A pivoting connector would be great as well... it's kinda nice when the weight or contact of the cord doesn't interfere with the movement of your hand or the moving parts...

Sage Oz
05-18-2012, 01:35 AM
Btw thanks for the props! It's fun to come up with new ideas. I've seen those double ended motors before and was always thinking it'd could be something cool but had no idea what, you made a sweet new cool thing and it got me inspired. It's rad to have ideas bounce back and forth, it'll be awesome to see what twists you add!

Sage Oz
05-18-2012, 01:36 AM
Whoa did I say twists?

spoonertattoos
05-18-2012, 02:22 AM
this is cool and all brian but could stop messing around and finish making those trackers. This money is burning a whole in my pocket. hahaha.

Sage Oz
05-18-2012, 03:09 AM
Brian's face is so deadpan in that whole video, sooo funny he looks all (:~[ } the whole time lol!!!

specialtechnique
05-20-2012, 04:28 AM
i'm bill, brian campbell is my partner in the machine business, and my roommate :]

specialtechnique
05-20-2012, 04:34 AM
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i know it's kinda off topic, but i feel like show and tell haha... my work looks like this, kinda wonky. most of brian's recent work has a more dialed in and futuristic look. these are the machines i've been messing with the last few days.

Sage Oz
05-20-2012, 04:54 AM
i'm bill, brian campbell is my partner in the machine business, and my roommate :]

Oops sorry Bill, my bad! I got you guys confused!

Sage Oz
05-20-2012, 04:57 AM
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i know it's kinda off topic, but i feel like show and tell haha... my work looks like this, kinda wonky. most of brian's recent work has a more dialed in and futuristic look. these are the machines i've been messing with the last few days.

I'm really digging that green and white one, they're all pretty sweet tho...
I just worked out a trade for one of your slingshots... :D

specialtechnique
05-20-2012, 01:55 PM
sweet, what did you trade for it? it's neat to see our machines go out into the market and retain their value. i never even considered this dynamic for like the first 50 builds...

Sage Oz
05-20-2012, 02:04 PM
sweet, what did you trade for it? it's neat to see our machines go out into the market and retain their value. i never even considered this dynamic for like the first 50 builds...

A brass Rotary Works. I added a RCA connection, two of my homemade needle tensioners, and $100 to even out the deal a bit. One of these days soon I'll get a new one, I really like the brass/carbon axis models a lot. I love making machines as well, got a lot of cool unique prototypes drafted up, just gotta get machining. After my divorce I lost my garage shop, what tools I have are in storage :,(

No Iron Machines
06-10-2012, 01:52 PM
He he...cool