PDA

View Full Version : weight of machines what do you like



tattooedpirate2
06-08-2012, 09:58 AM
Which do you prefer a light machine of 3.5 ounces or a heavier machine of 5-6 ounces ? I'm doing a run of Cutlass liners we have been testing and I'm trying to decide bronze or aluminum. This model will be fully engraved and polished to a high luster.

DiarrheaSuitcase
06-08-2012, 10:10 AM
Personally, I feel that lighter is better. But majority of rotaries out there are already very light weight, so a heavier machine option would be nice for those who like that heavy, coil feel.

tattooedpirate2
06-08-2012, 10:13 AM
11012Here's the prototype. It works flawlessly with no spitting and more punch than any coil machine. It has true adjustable spring give, just swap out one of the 3 different give springs. No adjusting a knob it's preloaded and works the same every time. Clip cord or RCA connection and a clean tube vise. Aluminum weighs in at 3.5 ounces. True spring slap with the floating give system. from 5-10 volts.

tattooedpirate2
06-08-2012, 10:14 AM
<img id="vbattach_11012" class="previewthumb" alt="" src="http://www.rotarytattoo.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11012&amp;stc=1" attachmentid="11012">Here's the prototype. It works flawlessly with no spitting and more punch than any coil machine. It has true adjustable spring give, just swap out one of the 3 different give springs. No adjusting a knob it's preloaded and works the same every time. Clip cord or RCA connection and a clean tube vise. Aluminum weighs in at 3.5 ounces. True spring slap with the floating give system. from 5-10 volts.

tattooedpirate2
06-08-2012, 10:15 AM
Forgot and the three stroke crank and adjusts just like the Treasure Chest. Springs are included.

Wonderland
06-08-2012, 10:27 AM
Very Nice. I prefer a lighter machine for lining and a heavier for color work. So for me it would be both.

wildboy
06-08-2012, 10:45 AM
Heavier isnt the worst for lining with small groupings feels like more control somehow...

MAD DOG
06-08-2012, 11:23 AM
Heavy , heavy , heavy .....bronze , brass , copper , iron ! Lol !!! One of these days someone will make a solid silver , gold , titanium , or platinum machine ........lmmfao !

aurelien
06-08-2012, 11:51 AM
I prefer the solid feeling of a heavier machine

Bruce Gulick
06-08-2012, 12:01 PM
The lighter the better. I should never even notice my machine!

tugg
06-08-2012, 12:30 PM
I like a light machine, lighter the better but with a heavy grip for lining.

slicksteel
06-08-2012, 12:37 PM
a mid weight one around 4-7oz would be great not to heavy or light;)

Deakon
06-08-2012, 02:54 PM
I personally prefer a little bit of weight when lining, nice and light when shading. Get fancy and have adjustable weight?!

Tkocevar1
06-08-2012, 03:00 PM
i wish i could actually just tattoo with a real pencil...

Sekt
06-08-2012, 09:06 PM
i wish i could actually just tattoo with a real pencil...

Yeh so do I- a pencil has a drag factor. But I work off the tip, and the needle is sort of floating above the skin, with no feedback like a pencil has. Thats why I prefer heavier esp for lining, because heavier has some relationship with surface i'm doing.

Tkocevar1
06-08-2012, 09:29 PM
True story I like light weight. No hand fatigue . And all the feedback i need can be felt in my stretching hand.

Stripe
06-08-2012, 09:34 PM
Ligher the better with a rotary... With a coils I need a heavy machine to off set the force of the spring pulling back.

Sage Oz
06-08-2012, 10:06 PM
Light as possible with a shader, 4-5 ounces for lining to help keep things smooth and steady...


Sent from a galaxy far, far away...

tattooedpirate2
06-09-2012, 09:57 AM
I'm thinking aluminum frame with a large bronze thumb screw to counterweight the weight forward. As well as different a thick bronze tube vise clamp also bronze to add weight for balance and vibration dampening. Two piece compisition frame with the thumb screw straight out so it's right or lefty.

fkirons
06-09-2012, 12:44 PM
3.5 -4.5 oz are good weight.

Sage Oz
06-09-2012, 01:22 PM
I'm thinking aluminum frame with a large bronze thumb screw to counterweight the weight forward. As well as different a thick bronze tube vise clamp also bronze to add weight for balance and vibration dampening. Two piece compisition frame with the thumb screw straight out so it's right or lefty.

Good thoughts!


Sent from a galaxy far, far away...

tattooedpirate2
06-14-2012, 05:34 PM
11207Ok Here's what I came up with for a good solid liner. Weighs in at 5.5 ounces an in between weight. low center of gravity with the mass balanced at the tube. 3 strokes built in adjusts just like the Treasure Chest, as well as the springs for the give. It's going off to the engraver Monday after I get to lay down ink all weekend. It has very little vibration due to the bronze tube vise. If you want it a little more heavy I'm doing the thumb nut on the tube vise out of bronze as well. These are one offs so no 2 will be the same. Art for the artist. $350.00 + shipping

vodu
06-15-2012, 12:14 AM
I like all. For a light work, blending, i prefer a light machine, and for a heavy work, like packing colors, black, a heavier machine...i don't know why...maybe helps the feeling of the hand...

tattooedpirate2
06-15-2012, 03:03 PM
11235Ok here is the aluminum base with the bronze clamp and thumb nut. I've deciced to include both base plates so you can swap from light to heavy by just removing 2 screws and swapping the base out. The weight is 4.75 ounces in the aluminum and with the plastic nut it is under 4 ounces for the artist who wants super light. $365.00 for the kit with springs and both base plates and 2 thumb nuts plastic and bronze.

Sage Oz
06-16-2012, 01:52 AM
Much more aethetically pleasing and balanced looking with the brass chuck. That's a great idea including both baseplates, very nicely done sir!


Sent from a galaxy far, far away...