Dan Kubin Mini Crankers

[GregM]

14933149341493514936 Here are my 2 Dk Mini Crankers..The Mercedes Blue w/Laser Copper is the new MC-13 and the Mint Green w/Matte Black is #67 of the original..These are amazing little machines and look so darn cool..The Mint Green is at a 4mm stroke and mostly used as a liner..The MC-13(blue) is set up at a 3.3mm stroke for shading and color blending.I must say it is a little quieter and smoother than the original Cranker.The bearings in the pivot set up make for a smoother motion..All the upgrades are really awesome and very functional..The new vice seems great and more disposable friendly..The new Dial on the flywheel makes adjusting the stroke to the proper length much easier than before..I know there are a good amout of Mini Cranker users on here and everybody has different color combos so lets see your Dan Kubin machines!!post some pictures!Pinkfro had a good idea with a "show me your Cranker thread" so here it is..Post a pic of any DK machine you have!

[nivek]

I tried my first one two weeks ago, a second is now on its way. SO impressed by his machiens

[casey]

14945mine, and i bloody love em:)

[sacredsouls]

Hey Casey can you still run a clip cord on it with the RCA conversion? I love RCA but I can't seem to find a cord that holds up more than a month or two and its back to a clippy.

[nivek]

Get one of the AL Brodur Cords - built to LAST !! Not cheap but worth every single cent.

[GregM]

14945mine, and i bloody love em:)nice machines casey!

[casey]

Hey Casey can you still run a clip cord on it with the RCA conversion? I love RCA but I can't seem to find a cord that holds up more than a month or two and its back to a clippy. Can run both rca and clippy on these mate, very easy conversion. Have just made some heavy duty cables utilizing guitar cable and some nakamichi rca's with a decent cable clamp for myself and the other lads at the studio to test out, will let you know how they get on

[Mozzer337]

I love mine too Paul. Just got a new adjustable cranker off Dan, set at 5mm. Puts solid big group lines in with ease. Never thought i'd make the switch to lining fully with a rotary, but the Soba Pilot is getting used less and less nowadys. Got one of Dans mini direct drives too, and that machine is a monster for colour. Heres my babies the heat treated machine was a trade from Skinmech.14955

[MickWrath]

Here's mine, MC13, MC and sorry had to sneak a DD in there ;) amazing machines, and I use them everyday. Mick!

[MickWrath]

...and for the real cranker porn, here's the shops collection and counting. Looking all sexy.

[wildboy]

Got them all 2nd hand so I would have chosen different colors but theyre still my favourite machines (with my slim line RW)

[GregM]

...and for the real cranker porn, here's the shops collection and counting. Looking all sexy.WOW thats awesome!!!

[GregM]

Got them all 2nd hand so I would have chosen different colors but theyre still my favourite machines (with my slim line RW)I love those colors you got!especially that silverish looking one..Wildboy what exactly are you using for thumbscrews?how do those needle stabilazer bars work,any good?

[Baldrick]

Here's mine - had another mini DD but a co worker begged me to sell it to him ;)

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/04/6e5y6eje.jpg

[MickWrath]

I'm loving this thread! Keep em coming! These all look so good!

[wildboy]

I love those colors you got!especially that silverish looking one..Wildboy what exactly are you using for thumbscrews?how do those needle stabilazer bars work,any good?

2 of the thumscrews are WHI theyre really great perfect size to tighten the tube vice without force. The other one is an Aaron Cain thumbscrew its a little smaller and I need a lot of force to get the tube vice tight enough for disposables.

The needle tensioners are awesome I took the idea from Sage OZ and made a 5 bucks 10 minute solution for my machines. Sages are way nicer but so far hey work pretty well its the same precison you have with a needle clip on the Bishop you can look from each side and there is absolutely no sideways movement from the needle. Feels like a precision tool at least for my liking.

[peter clements]

Here's my little family.................

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c363/petetatzon/Kubinfamily.jpg

From left to right, Little Satan, Old Nick, Beelzebub,and Pumpkin Arse.

[wildboy]

there all beautiful but old nick and beelzebub are eye candy

[GregM]

there all beautiful but old nick and beelzebub are eye candy
I agree!they are great looking

[Mozzer337]

Just a quick question. Do you guys use the vertical band to help with "punch" on the downstroke? The only downside I find with this is the needle is always out when the pedal in depressed, so when using small caps the danger of banging the needles is more likely?

[wildboy]

I guess its just the rubber band thats used while tattooing?

[skinmech]

Just a quick question. Do you guys use the vertical band to help with "punch" on the downstroke? The only downside I find with this is the needle is always out when the pedal in depressed, so when using small caps the danger of banging the needles is more likely?

I use the band more as a stabiliser than to increase the force of the downstroke. I don't think it has any bearing on the downstroke, and even without the vertical band your needle can still hang out as there is no "return spring" system. I use the needle hanging out when stopped to my advantage, spesh when I don't want to load my tube tip, I just use the needle tip like a quill pen-for very small details and script.....TBH Works just as well without the vertical band....

[nivek]

Just got my 2nd one today JOOOOOOYYYYY !! Silicon one the nipple BOOM godo to go.

[MickWrath]

Pics nivek!

[nivek]

Will do - getting my GF a custom one for xmas

[GregM]

Just got my 2nd one today JOOOOOOYYYYY !! Silicon one the nipple BOOM godo to go.post pics man!you cant leave us hangin

[nivek]

I will tommorow just ordered a one off for the girlfriend for Christmas i PROMISE you will never see another like it.

[sacredsouls]

I just ordered one today. I really can't wait to line with it. I will post pics when I get it.

[Mozzer337]

I use the band more as a stabiliser than to increase the force of the downstroke. I don't think it has any bearing on the downstroke, and even without the vertical band your needle can still hang out as there is no "return spring" system. I use the needle hanging out when stopped to my advantage, spesh when I don't want to load my tube tip, I just use the needle tip like a quill pen-for very small details and script.....TBH Works just as well without the vertical band....

Cheers for the reply Paul. I know theres no return, but I get wary of the needle hang when dipping, so I tend to give the pedal a small tap to try and get most of it back in. I hang it out looooong ya see. Just got a new one thats set at 5 mil with most of the stroke hung out. I was thinking of trying to connect a spring under the abar to push against the motor housing, to encourage the return, but I dont want to strain the motor by introducing any force against the function.

[peter clements]

Cheers for the reply Paul. I know theres no return, but I get wary of the needle hang when dipping, so I tend to give the pedal a small tap to try and get most of it back in. I hang it out looooong ya see. Just got a new one thats set at 5 mil with most of the stroke hung out. I was thinking of trying to connect a spring under the abar to push against the motor housing, to encourage the return, but I dont want to strain the motor by introducing any force against the function.

Don't obsess over return springs, the theory is "would you drive a car with the hand brake on". I know quite a few Rotary users who when using machines like DFs, remove the return springs , apparantly the machines' performance then improves. Please, don't risk damaging your Cranker.

[devans]

Little tiny bit off topic....BUT............. how about the return spring in a FLY ? .......... Remove it ?

[Mozzer337]

Don't obsess over return springs, the theory is "would you drive a car with the hand brake on". I know quite a few Rotary users who when using machines like DFs, remove the return springs , apparantly the machines' performance then improves. Please, don't risk damaging your Cranker.

Thanks for the advice Peter. Thats made my mind up. If its not broke, dont fix it I suppose. I love the machine as it is, so the return spring idea is getting binned.

[peter clements]

Little tiny bit off topic....BUT............. how about the return spring in a FLY ? .......... Remove it ?

Give it a try, you can always put it back if you wish.

[johndameart]

What He Said. :)

[MickWrath]

I'm probably one of the only guys who actually prefers no return spring, it just makes it that much easier to check and adjust my needle float during setup.

[pinkfro]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/08/zesemyne.jpg my beautiful liner
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/08/senyne9e.jpg 2.5 mm b&g modeled after vintage robot

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[peter clements]

Very nice, I've yet to try any of my crankers at a short stroke for B&G, are you liking it?

[pinkfro]

its actually awesome. At first i tried running it slower for B&G and hated it so i talked to dan and he said run it around 7 (which is what I run both of my machines at now) and i have been using it with needlejig bugpin round mags and yeah i like it alot. I dont do a ton of black and grey and I actually tried it out with some color I love it for softer blended colorwork. I dont think it would go over incredibly well for straight up single shade packing but its really a lovely machine. Id love to have like 10 more. Someday :)

[GregM]

ive used my MC-13 a few times already it is AMAZING!Dan sent it to me with a 3.3mm stroke for shading/coloring and it is an absolute pleasure to use..going from my Bishop to the MC-13 at 3.3mm took zero time for me to get used to it..Also the MC-13 is a tad lighter than the original Cranker.On the scale I had 3.9oz for the MC-13 and the og Mini Cranker was 4.3oz..the tube vice is great too,my disposables and s.s fit perfectly and tighten with barely any force on the wingnut..the other thing is the MC-13 is definitly a little quieter and smoother too..the new pivot set up with the bearings makes it run really smooth..I wasnt sure how much better Dan was able to get the Mini Crankers but he DEFINITLY did take it up a notch with the MC-13..

[nivek]

my two girls
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[luckyyoutattoo]

here is mine15204

[Sage Oz]

I love the look of that one!

[GregM]

here is mine15204WOW thats nice! love the pink

[pinkfro]

here is mine15204

Jealous. So bad

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[nivek]

if you like that one you will HEART the one hes making for my gf. heehhe. I will post as soon as i get

[chris-in-cali]

i couldn't take it anymore!!!
i just ordered one.

[sacredsouls]

So Dan just shipped my machine out today and I can't wait to get it and use it. I am so excited Couldn't decide on color so I just went raw metal and brass. I love the industrial look of it.

15245

[GregM]

So Dan just shipped my machine out today and I can't wait to get it and use it. I am so excited Couldn't decide on color so I just went raw metal and brass. I love the industrial look of it.

15245NICE!she sure is a shiney one

[sacredsouls]

I just got my machine today and HOLY SHIT!!! You guys didn't tell me it would be so small. I can't get over how little it is. I had it setup as a liner and just so happens I am lining out a full sleeve tomorrow.

[skinmech]

I just got my machine today and HOLY SHIT!!! You guys didn't tell me it would be so small. I can't get over how little it is. I had it setup as a liner and just so happens I am lining out a full sleeve tomorrow.

You will enjoy it.....:)

[skinmech]

NICE!she sure is a shiney one


This Chrome one is Super Shiney, LOL:p.........now belongs to Dax.....I remembering ordering this from Dan, and it was the first one using this technique....15349

[Mozzer337]

Ive gave in to the obsession. Another cranker on order. Thats 3 now, and a mini DD. Im hooked :-)

[peter clements]

Ive gave in to the obsession. Another cranker on order. Thats 3 now, and a mini DD. Im hooked :-)

It's Christmas, you're entitled to a treat.

[Mozzer337]

It's Christmas, you're entitled to a treat.

Thats exactly what I keep telling the wife.............."its not for me per se, its for the good of the seasonal traditions" Its just my small contribution to all things festive :-)

[sacredsouls]

So I started lining the sleeve I started tonight and after three lines almost went back to my coil. Then I kept at it figured it out and OH MY! What a liner. I am already talking to Dan about a second and I promise this one will be a one off machine.

[Mozzer337]

Got my new one on the way. Its a father christmas coloured cranker, keeping in with the seasonal tidings. Just while im on this thread again, been trying to use the hairband style bands, but been having loads of issues with them breaking every 5 mins, ive even added some shrink tubing to the band retaining screws because I thought the thread was causing the breaks, but it made no difference. Ive reverted to going back to 2x regular bands with a "good" bend on the needle.

[sacredsouls]

I use one regular rubber band with a bend on the bar and it works fine. I can't see why you would need more than that.

[skinmech]

I need to ask, why the "hair bands" are you are talking about the small ones that can be used with a Halo..

[Mozzer337]

Im not too sure if they are the Halo style bands, as ive never used a Halo Paul, but I tried with the black bands you supplied with the cranker we traded, and I bought some slightly tighter ones too. Both dont last too long. Im using no 14 bands now, 2 of them. If I get the bend just right (I try to get the bend near the top of the tube), and use 2 of these bands with a bit of stretch to free them up, prior to placing them, I get a nice clean stroke with no friction and a good ink flow. I maybe have too much tension on the needle bar though, considering im using 2 bands. I know these hair type bands get used frequently by other forum members. Just dont seem to work with me. For what its worth I use my crankers around the 6.5 to 7 volt range.

[skinmech]

I don't understand why people feel the need to bend the Bar, I totally understand the concept, but. If your Machine is set up correctly, there is no need to bend so the needles sit towards the back of your tip...Think about it, you are bending your bar/solder/needles " out the way" so that the "bands" will draw the needles "back in the way, under pressure", or, put another way, towards the back of the tip, and run straighter....If you feel the need to bend anything, "carefully" bend the needles them selves inwards, and let the bands do the rest..

[nivek]

Can't wait to post the one I got my GF for xmas.

[Dman]

here's my new baby. Can't wait to try get out. Think my leg its getting a new addition soon.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/24/3adamube.jpg

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[batrdnbrusd]

whats the weight on these machines?

[nivek]

So this is the one I got my Gf for xmas. The color was all Dan the stickers were off the interweb. SHe LOVED it


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[chris-in-cali]

here's mine...running t-tech......push a 8 liner no probs. quick twist and a drop of the volts and i'm running fine detail with a 3 liner.
fucking love it.....16187

[nivek]

Got my new one on the way. Its a father christmas coloured cranker, keeping in with the seasonal tidings. Just while im on this thread again, been trying to use the hairband style bands, but been having loads of issues with them breaking every 5 mins, ive even added some shrink tubing to the band retaining screws because I thought the thread was causing the breaks, but it made no difference. Ive reverted to going back to 2x regular bands with a "good" bend on the needle.

I found the hair ones breaking all the time. I do not have that issue near as much as with the ones I got from FK irons

[luckyyoutattoo]

i juse the small hair bands but than the nylon one

[Neo]

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My brand new MC-13 delivered today :) i had Dan bless the side for me. I added the 2nd pic to show how small the machine is

[joelhague]

Mc 13 on the way for me too gloss black and brass hardware :)

[PAWNJOB]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/28/yga2ypyd.jpg

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[PAWNJOB]

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[Mozzer337]

My up to date Arsenal. :-) Might indulge in another DD this year sometime.