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09-17-2013, 03:43 PM
Ok so got these brand new beautys today used them just once... Had to stop mid tattoo and bend the magnum down at the solder as it was running in the middle of the tube.. Who uses bishops what do you use them for and how to they work best??? I have a vivace so if i remember right i had to bend needles with that too...
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Baldrick
09-17-2013, 04:31 PM
Yeah just a little bend near the solder is all I've needed - and artist in my studio does that and if any problem he puts a good old elastic band on - problem solved.

Administrator
09-17-2013, 04:53 PM
Steel or disposable? What kind of grommet?

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09-17-2013, 05:24 PM
I use only disposables, and I have the silicone tubing but used a ruuber grom today, and yeah I stuck an elastic band on too lol.. I figure the bishop is best for black and grey.. and maybe lining... I would like to line with one greyshade with the other

Administrator
09-17-2013, 06:56 PM
Your grommet may be a little tall. Plastic tubes can bend a little in the stem if you gorilla grip the thumb screw. Different tubes and trying paper towel or another shape of grommet can help. This is a minor flaw in linear machines with a clip. The precision the machine is designed at will not jive with the lack of precision in needle bars, solder points, grommets and tube tips/stems.

A little bend at the eye and a little bend at the solder i have seen work for some in the past. But have also seenbit solved using paper towel over grommets.

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tattood
09-17-2013, 07:17 PM
cut the back part of your grommet off..

hellraiser6662
09-17-2013, 08:12 PM
I use a bishop and when you get bored with them let me know I'll take them of your hands haha

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tattood
09-17-2013, 08:37 PM
21655 That part of the grommet needs to be removed. Not sure it will work with the type of grommet u have on there but u get the idea

21656

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09-18-2013, 01:43 AM
Thanks everyone I have the silicone hose that I used with my cranker.. that has no bottom part so maybe give that a go.. and hellraiser im under strict orders no more buying and selling this tax year hahah..

slicksteel
09-18-2013, 02:24 AM
If i remember right,I have seen franco use paper towels in several pics.I simply turn my mags over on clip machines-with maybe a small forward bend at the solder joint if needed depending on the tubetip setup. I use papertowels,or verythin back groms or tubing.
On liners I put in the standard way but a very slight curve at the top of the bar and a very slight bend at solder joint and use the same grom etc as mags. If you have to much bend it will pop up the needle in the tube tip.
this is what works for me.

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09-18-2013, 02:29 AM
Thanks slicksteel

FRANCO VESCOVI
09-18-2013, 03:11 AM
Ok so got these brand new beautys today used them just once... Had to stop mid tattoo and bend the magnum down at the solder as it was running in the middle of the tube.. Who uses bishops what do you use them for and how to they work best??? I have a vivace so if i remember right i had to bend needles with that too...
http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww63/fluffmills/temporary.jpg

Hey man, The fix is quite easy in that the linear movement and the needle clip make the needle bar sometimes point towards the center of the tube depending on the tube. Some plastic tubes are slightly crooked and then some are perfect. Bending the needle both in the middle of the bar as well as bending it at the solder will give the needle a slight overall bow and It will solve the issue and the reward is a beyond precise movement that will allow you to pick away at the detail work!

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09-18-2013, 04:00 AM
Hey man, The fix is quite easy in that the linear movement and the needle clip make the needle bar sometimes point towards the center of the tube depending on the tube. Some plastic tubes are slightly crooked and then some are perfect. Bending the needle both in the middle of the bar as well as bending it at the solder will give the needle a slight overall bow and It will solve the issue and the reward is a beyond precise movement that will allow you to pick away at the detail work!

Thanks franco