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Well going into a little depth would be more acceptable of a critique .. Rather than get all pissy when some guys wanna have a good time and joke around... The only person I saw getting but hurt around here is you...

i'm a fan of both versions!! i think its great and saying it needs more contrast has become a pat response around here lately. i respect that some may feel that way and thats cool. but perhaps offering why and where and how it would enhance the said piece. and maybe just maybe the artist wasn't trying to create something with high contrast? sometimes we should consider the fact that not everything will or should be done to meet our standards or skill level and the piece is exactly what the artist was shooting for. i for one love seeing art that was created for art's sake. all of the above it just my 2cents and i suggest you try not and spend it. shit i think it would have been easier to do with high contrast!!! sometimes less is far more...

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Originally Posted by ChrisGuinan

Obviously no one here wants an honest critique. If you guys want to blow each other all over the internet and tell each other how great you are that's fine and dandy, but when you post in a critique forum you should be prepared to accept just that. A critique. The drawing is a fine drawing, but it needs contrast. The paper doesn't have a damn thing to do with it, and my attitude doesn't either. It simply needs what it needs. You can either take that and learn from it, or continue sticking your heads in the sand it's your choice.

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DAMN...lol

I was under the impression that the high contrast was a stlye and not a set in stone way to get down. Im thinking it is art and there are many ways to go about it and their always doesnt need to be that heavy contrast other wise everything wood look the same..

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i'm a fan of both versions!! i think its great and saying it needs more contrast has become a pat response around here lately. i respect that some may feel that way and thats cool. but perhaps offering why and where and how it would enhance the said piece. and maybe just maybe the artist wasn't trying to create something with high contrast? sometimes we should consider the fact that not everything will or should be done to meet our standards or skill level and the piece is exactly what the artist was shooting for. i for one love seeing art that was created for art's sake. all of the above it just my 2cents and i suggest you try not and spend it. shit i think it would have been easier to do with high contrast!!! sometimes less is far more...

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well said

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Originally Posted by ChrisGuinan

Obviously no one here wants an honest critique. If you guys want to blow each other all over the internet and tell each other how great you are that's fine and dandy, but when you post in a critique forum you should be prepared to accept just that. A critique. The drawing is a fine drawing, but it needs contrast. The paper doesn't have a damn thing to do with it, and my attitude doesn't either. It simply needs what it needs. You can either take that and learn from it, or continue sticking your heads in the sand it's your choice.

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I for one Chris absolutely thrive on honest critique especially when given in a constructive and helpful manner, you sir seem to offer neither, not just this thread but on others. Maybe something is being lost in the translation from brain to the internet via your keyboard , I dont know? But in your short time on here you seem to be coming across like the spoilt fat child at a party who always gets sent home early. If im mistaken then please take my sincerest of apologies sir. When critiquing a piece (any piece) it shows good manners and an even greater character to offer some sort of guidance into rectifying the flaws within the piece. And I am sure we could all benefit from the opinions and "eyesight" of an artist of your caliber ...so please dont leave the party early my friend:)

Sometimes things get lost in translation especially when texting. Let's all try to play nice.

The drawing is nice for sure. It has enough contrast I think. Maybe not quite enough in the eyes and forehead but overall it has great contrast. I think it's lacking a lot of mid tones though and that's likely what dude was trying to say. For me bridging the gap between the light and dark areas in the right spots would take this piece from good to great.

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I can see where some of you are coming from, but I think others are making excuses. Simply stating that a piece needs more contrast (or any other simple direction) is every bit as valid as the other posts who simply say 'wow' or 'awesome', It's just not gratifying so everyone seems to be running to defend the artist. We're all adults here, we don't need people to come to our aid and any critique that's given is valid. If you don't agree, that's fine too you can simply ignore it and move on. I'm not trying to be negative, nor am I angry, butt hurt, or have sand in my vagina about anything, I just state what I think fairly plainly and it seems to be taken in a negative manner. Thus far I've mainly posted in critique areas, of course it would seem that I'm being harsh. I am, but I try to be just as helpful in the other areas when I do post there.

Needs more contrast and needs more black are just sort of a commonly exhausted phrase on most tattoo forums a little elaboration does go a long way. In all honesty the mod made to the drawing did make my borring ride to Detroit last night a little more entertaining. Thanks guys for keeping this all above board.

HIJACK* All this being said "needs more black" is on the drafting table for some forum shirts i want to run in the spring time.

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Needs more contrast and needs more black are just sort of a commonly exhausted phrase on most tattoo forums a little elaboration does go a long way. In all honesty the mod made to the drawing did make my borring ride to Detroit last night a little more entertaining. Thanks guys for keeping this all above board.

HIJACK* All this being said "needs more black" is on the drafting table for some forum shirts i want to run in the spring time.

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They may be exhausted, but they are also the most common issues so it's kind of a give and take thing. Glad to help entertain you on your long trip though ;-) I'll be in Detroit today too (I live close, don't judge) and getting a piece from Myke Chambers around 5ish, I hope to see some of you there.