When set to 0 and the soft bar on with a med weight, this machine is great for driving in white or black, just like a powerfull long stoke coil.
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When set to 0 and the soft bar on with a med weight, this machine is great for driving in white or black, just like a powerfull long stoke coil.
different dampening systems yield different results. I'm sure the whole plastic dampening has something to do with it.
a minute bit of dampening can give great results.. too much can definitely be a detriment.
Hey, all. Just wanted to post that Samyo, contacted me about this post and offered to send me a hard clip, I have already traded the machine but just wanted to let everyone know how helpful and professional he was. Thanks man.-J
i used the whip now for 2 weeks but still not liking it. lining is terrible and shading pffff if i use my darkest shading ink it still looks like it's soooooo light. what am i doing wrong or is it just not my machinetype............
I tried swashdrives but not this one. I also think that rotaries should be as simple as they could be, as i want to step away from the maintenance of coils.
And like others, the more give the machine has, the harder i try to run it, so not much point really.
In general I would say that when i first got my stigma hyper, I had to relearn how to saturate and all, slow down my hand movement quite drastically, adopt more a cross hatching motion than rubbing etc ... a whole new experience.
Then I switched back to coils, (i kept lining with) for the shadings, and all this time learning movements, motions, hand speed, stroke etc ... when translated to the coils worked like a charme.
It was like starting all over again, very exiting ! So i would say that rotaries definitely improved my tattooing even my tattooing with coils :)
fuck give hammer that shit home
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Originally Posted by tattoo4satan
Same here, i might sell my rapiers, one of my whips a DF and a few more cause im going back to coils for now. I went back and its so much easier to get it in fast and i can make any machine do what i want very easily. I never had problems with coils but it was even better after using only rotarys for a while. I would advise buying some FKI AL machines as it will help with the weight factor on the wrist so the sound is the only problem left, tuning is not an issue to me at all cause i was taught to master the machine inside and out and i enjoy playing around with coils. A thick rubber grip takes some of the vib out also.
Also the whip can hit harder buy using the soft clip on 0 or hard on 0 and throwing the whip weights( they sell ) on the machine. I have the weights and they make a big difference on the hit. It wacks it in real nice that way and works better then just a hard bar IMO. I have not even tried the heavier weight yet but im sure that will be even harder. I have no problems packing with the whip or getting a solid hit but the stroke does get pretty long but thats not an issue to me. I do use smaller mags as it puts ink in much better then a 15 mag unless im looking for smooth shading on a big area which the whip can do anyway. I use 7-9 mags to put ink in fast and easily
Im suprised no one brought up the weights to solve carltons problem but i see this is a real old thread. I just wanted to help people out who may be reading this and having the same issue as carlton now days. Whip is a good machine and i like that if it drops there wont be a million parts all over the place like other rotarys, solid machine point blank.
Sorry to bump an old thread but users are reading this as i speak and i think its disrespectful to the builder if i dont chime in and bring people up to date since i use the machine. The machine hits hard with the weights and they can be bought as of today.
bang on neo just seen this thread and was going to suggest the weights as the whip and modified stealth is all i use right nowQuote:
Originally Posted by Neo
Totally agree..I had gotten to the point where I rarely used any rounds for shading or even coloring small areas anymore, but the Spektra with a turn out on the give will drop in some serious pigment.Quote:
Originally Posted by otto
SWASHDRIVE GEN 6 and 7 was some of the best ROTARY ever, everybody like and still ask for them
WHY THIS PEOPLE STOP PRODUCE AND MOVE TO SOME DIFFERENT WAY ????
Why do you you feel the need to type with your caps lock on?Quote:
Originally Posted by No Iron Machines
I traded my whip with my tattooist a while back because I was mistakenly trying to use it as an all-rounder and got frustrated with it. Now my tattooist is doing a large dot work piece up my arm covering many sessions, and she is using the Whip for the job. We discuss our machine choices often while she works, and some interesting things have come up. My artist is also a sound technician and uses her ears with the Whip to feel out her adjustments and techniques for the varying skin thickness and density from my underarm, outer arm, arm crook and wrist. Now I also listen closely when she works and have begun to hear all of the nuances in the machine as she works. She reckons that it makes the Whip one of the most sensitive and flexible machines ever made. I have since tried listening for these variations during my work with the Bizarre and NeoTat, two totally different machines...not a chance. The Bizarre, obviously, dances to its own tune and delivers what it is set to deliver without a lot of tonal subtlety, and the NeoTat is just steady. I love my Bizarres very dearly (and the NeoTat), but last session with my artist I started to miss the Swash and its soft bouncy purr. And the whole experience reminded me that it isn't so much how the machine runs that is important, but how we run the machines and how much we get into the experience of using them. I'm getting a Whip again, even if I won't be using it every day.
The whip is awesome, soft clip sucks a bit really... But the hard clip rocks my balls off!!! Lining at 11.5v i can line as fast as i would with a cutback and it pushes from 5rl right up to 9rs for linework with no issues heals perfect unreal!!! It also shades and colours great too, it has give but just very little give, its not adjustable with the hard clip so get the same performance every time.... I had tried loads and i mean loads of rotarys for lining was about to give up.. Then the whip came along... Its so good, it does work for everything, but... I do use it exclusivley for lining.. The neotat 3.5 is my colour machine Of choice and the neotat2.5 or hawk spirit do my black and grey needs...
Hey Joshua, how r u? need to send you the new ones soon. I have had quite a few customers use my machine with the T-Tech system as well as the new grips that Hawk sells that adapt to any machine and the feedback has been great. I have the next size up in motors which is the 22mm diameter where as the hawk uses the 17mm diameter. The 22mm motor has a stronger torque rating as well as a tougher stall torque so it will push bigger mags more effortlessly. If you do use the bishop for this set up, you have to remove the spring because the rubber in the needle cartridges act as a spring and using both will put wear on the motor and also cause you to have to turn up the voltage.Quote:
Originally Posted by JCarlton
Would you like to try one of my Nedz MR01 they are super hard I can sed you one for free it you dont like just return it.
I said that and never got mine back!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedz
Must be nice that Sanyo contacted you.. I've emailed him multiple times to get a replacement motor for my gen 6 and never a response...
did you tried the facebook? i guess itīs easier there...Quote:
Originally Posted by artoftatt2
https://www.facebook.com/groups/160190210717434/
Tried their too.. He has lost my business
Yep I'm waiting on a g7 replacement motor and I know of someone else whos waited 4 months to get a g7 motor replaced and no luck. It's to do with the extended shaft on the motor being machined up or I take a big hammer knock the extended shaft of the knackered motor then fit it on a new motor. I use my whip all the time once my g7 went down I had no choice. But mine has the short stroke and the super hard clip with no give and it trans forms the whip to a very useable machine. Just shame about my g7 though
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I just wish everyone would see the customer service they have and spend their money with someone who cares..
Which is deff not Sanyo
I did speak on facebook to him and he sead over the last month hes moved house so hes a little behind with stuff, but yea it just seems that it's just excuses. Shame as I loved my g7 now it's worth shit with out a motor
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I am new to rotaries.This forum has helped me out big time.Specially the suggestions on the whip settings for lining. I tried the hard clip in the mid postion, and it was perfect for a 7 liner. hardest settings worked great for a tight 3. Thank you Otto and slicksteel.
Always wanted to try the whip for black and gray. Seems the softness I hear about would be beneficial.
It is awesome for black and grey it allows me to move my hand very fast and the whip keeps up no problem even on lower volts a lot of people say the stigmas are the softest hitting machines . I think its the whip and honestly the closest thing to a coil expereience I have had out of a rotary