want to buy a new rotary..spektra or primus??

Spektra and sunskin are about £400 (not saying thats too much for quality equipment ... its not) But in my opinion buy an old timer ddo AND a rotaryworks id machine and you will still have about £120 left over... To put towards a spektra if u dont like the other 2.... And im sure theres plenty of people on here that would relieve you of your i.d or old timer on the classifieds

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Originally Posted by Mozzer337

After playing around with coils, and some 'give' rotaries, ive finally settled on using a Dan Kubin DD for greywash. It would have been the last type of machine I would have tried as ive always been under the illusion that to do soft grey shades you need a soft hitting machine, but I find the no give direct drive so much better. Theres more consistency with this method for me. If you want the pigment in, it goes in!!

Give was always a chore to get it in there for me, so consequently i'd be pushing to get penetration which would result in choppy uneven shades. Im the first to admit, my b and g is not my strongest point but I do believe it has improved and I feel a lot more confident with a machine that I control as opposed to one that is relying on a spring??

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well said man ^^^ i have been theorizing on why DD can shade so smooth and perhaps the fact that its one smooth constant motion with no resistance ?

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Originally Posted by tattood

well said man ^^^ i have been theorizing on why DD can shade so smooth and perhaps the fact that its one smooth constant motion with no resistance ?

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Pretty much what a Hawk is too.

Get an ID and one of these,,,problem solved... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMN9KlzCpcE but, then again, I am pretty biased,LOL

regardless of the machine lets not forget the importance of needle selection and depth with regard to soft shades. im with chewbacca on everything he says cos hes han solos main muddafukka. an 18 round shallow gives good grey with high enough volts,,,,sometimes though I feel like this guy,,,,,,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l-HHuZNnFc

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Originally Posted by skinmech

Get an ID and one of these,,,problem solved... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMN9KlzCpcE but, then again, I am pretty biased,LOL

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Exactly wht i said dude... Id machine & old timer... = awesome

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Originally Posted by Fergus

regardless of the machine lets not forget the importance of needle selection and depth with regard to soft shades. im with chewbacca on everything he says cos hes han solos main muddafukka. an 18 round shallow gives good grey with high enough volts,,,,sometimes though I feel like this guy,,,,,,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l-HHuZNnFc

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LOLOLOLOL,,,Fukn A++++++++...I remember this, but had to watch it again,,,,,made my night.P

ha ha i think this everytime i start a big google inspired tribal!!!!!

LOL..

Hahaha what was that color again?!?