thanks for the info gaston, cant wait to get one after the holidays.
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thanks for the info gaston, cant wait to get one after the holidays.
Not a problem man!Quote:
Originally Posted by cagelavey
Mine is on its way woth dark lab grips, can't wait to try it. Suck that it's Christmas so shipping time might suck :( lol
how long would it take to ship one of those to denmark :)? and what is the stroke range
Around 10 days to be In your hands. We are caught up with all orders so whatever it takes to build it and ship it. Stroke range is from 2.8-4.2mm comes set at 3.5mm and you modify it within that range.Quote:
Originally Posted by TorettoDk
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im not familiar with the cartrige system so if its a stupid question dont bite my neck.
from what i read generally the cartrige system requires no give machines because it has the spring inside the tip,and from posts i saw on troubleshooting people said that because there is give on coil machines it is not recommended for cartriges.or when a spring is removed from a rotary machine to make it work with cartriges because they have their own spring or rubber band.someone throw some light here because im confused.
carts have a return spring , some machines have that aswell
2x harder for the motor to do his thing
1spring removed from a machine will do the trick , there is no give on carts itself , only if a drivetrain has it to push the carts
hope this is an easy explanation?:)
cheers`
I've had mine for a few weeks and its been really nice for everything so far. One of the nicest rotary cartridge set ups I've used so far. Its nice that you can use disposable cartridge grips with no modification
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Originally Posted by Jack Steel
yes thanks jack.makes perfect sence.tought it was for give not as a return spring.
Really loving mine.cant wait for the disp. Rpg grips with the disp.bars!
Glad the mail man delivered it to the north pole :p The RPPs are back in stock and the Disp. DrivePin will be on their way soonQuote:
Originally Posted by nathan bauer
ordering my edge right now Gaston just talked to Kayleigh on the phone, cant wait to get it! going to be torture waiting. so, what are the estimated wait times on these now? cause I want to get this in my hands asap! lol.
Sup Cage, we are coming back from Philly today, tomorrow we'll be at the shop assessing the building situation since we all left to The show on Thursday. On the website we have a 15 days turnaround but hopefully the CNC machines caught up to us over the weekend because we were literally snatching parts out of the CNC as they were coming out. It will probably leave by end of the week.
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Thanks, I understand. Appreciate the heads up.
What is the difference between the thunder motor and the edge motor? Speed? torque? Curious
diff is its better all around and not made by a greedy non tattoo companyQuote:
Originally Posted by crabink
LMFAO... all though i agree... was just curious if they are the same.... curious about the speed and torque... seems like the thunder and spirit really work well... and wanted to know specs... or at least something vague but true.
I need Gaston to chime in in this one..
Think i need to update my old steel galaxie to one of these fancy little things!
They are supposed to be the same if I remember well.
Despite this fact when cleaning 27curved mag cheyenne needles the Thunder seems to have more torque. With a strong pressure on needles
Anyway both motor will push any 1-50 needle configuration with ease.
I'd say the edge is more coil like, has more of a hit to it, I can wip shade by flicking my wrist backwords as apposed to always forward with my cheyenne,, it lines way way better, I can pull and push lines with ease,, I can honostly say it is the best cartridge machine I've ever used, it pretty mutch shits all over cheyenne, , and I useto love cheyennes,,Quote:
Originally Posted by crabink
i own a thunder/spirit at the moment, it's an arse settings up two machines for each tattoo, thunder to line, spirit to shade..
i'm wondering if i set an Edge-X up with one grip could i very quickly change the stroke from 3.2 to 4.2 so when i want to switch between lining/shading it's easily done? if that's possible i may be sold on this item and say bye to my hawks :) (which i love!!!)
There's a video on youtube that shows you how the stroke is changed, there's also a video on there instagram,, its easy,,Quote:
Originally Posted by hysobe
The EdgeX (adjustable give version) comes set at 3.5 mm from Factory. You can change the stroke from 2.8 - 4.2mm. Its really easy but you may not even need to do so. The 3.5mm should suit most artists for lining, shading and color. All you would have to adjust is the give. For lining close the give almost all the way in . For shading and color, and open the give by tweaking small increments. You get full give within 1.5 turn. The remaining turns just hold the screw in place and have no effect over give.Quote:
Originally Posted by hysobe
does sound too good to be true!Quote:
Originally Posted by fkirons
i really like to do black and grey work with around 3mm stroke as i find i'm use to that stroke for blending etc, i'm not a fan of give anymore due to i used to use a dragonfly and my work looked well saturated, however when it used to heal it lightened up a lot, now i'm using no give (apart from what gives on the thin bar with the hawk and bigger groupings) everything saturates very nicely so i don't want to play too much with the give settings, unless it's black and grey work i might use the smallest bit of give
i used to line with a DD and didn't like the feel of it, so the tiniest bit of give is nice when lining
the depth concerned me a little which had me thinking, with the RPG grips and setting the depth, if i used the shorter 3mm stroke like i'm familiar with on my spirit, had this set at the correct depth, then whenever i wanted to change between lining (changing to a 4mm stroke) i most likely wouldn't have to adjust my needle depth right? (which would be annoying) as it would pop out 1mm further due to the increased stroke, so hopefully no depth alterations would need to be made?
sorry if i'm explaining this in the worst way possible :)
thanks for the replies i appreciate it
I completely understand where you are coming from. This is why the give of the Edge is not longer than 2mm and is not a super soft spring neither. Soft, long give will simply cause less penetration and more irritation in some cases. This is why while tattooing with super soft machines only look good when the tattoo is fresh, because what you are really achieving with super soft spring is a bare scratch that will heal up and fall off. The first layer of skin is not stable at all and is the skin that always shades off and dies.
The ink needs to penetrate about .5 -1 mm into the skin to burry the ink particle over the stable layer of skin. There is no give or take on this matter, just facts and this is why tattoos stay on the skin.
You can adjust the "depth" with easy with the vise system on the Edge or even use a Cheyenne Hawk grip. The option is yours. To change "mechanical stroke" it takes you 1 minute max if you ever need to. Feel free to contact us at [email protected] or call us at 855-FKIRONS with any questions.
We'll be glad to answer any of your question.
The Edge is just another tool that does not include talent. 😊
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mine appears to be in vanish mode in the mail,ha, i am not sure, i was sent an email that said it shipped on the 11th and would arrive friday the 13th, yet no updates to the tracking number have happened since the 11th. Gaston, did you Genie mail my machine? haha
Not at all brother. The tracking gets sent once the machine physically leaves. Shoot us a line at [email protected] to get on the mailman's ass. Yes that did sound awkward.Quote:
Originally Posted by brandonmull
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The tracking preorder was dated on the 4 th. The 11th was the date it said it was received at the post office. That's why I am confused. I am sooo ready to use it! I actually just got a beat up ol halo in the mail today on a trade. Never used one before, that machine runs awesomely!
And i did also email the order email. To see what was going on.
well , this is a machine that I sure do look forward to using, if it ever actually gets here.
Hey Brandon. It seems that the postal service has the package in TX and it's shown on the USPS website as "Delayed" A lot of customers have experienced this across the country and internationally due to the severe weather that some parts of the USA has been affected by. Not the case of Florida of course with a winter of 80ºF :) but certainly the case of many postal sorting facilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by brandonmull
I checked the website for you and this is what it shows:
https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfi...29%202196%2056
Attachment 27550
Hope they delivery soon and that you enjoy the machine. And should you have any questions, don't hesitate to contact us.
yes that is what it has shown me for several days, with no update.
It all updated this morning and is in town, seems the postal service just had a lazy update worker!
That's normal man..if your package is stuck somewhere, it won't say anything tell it moves, everytime the package shows up somewhere new it gets scanned and updated.Quote:
Originally Posted by brandonmull
I wish we can control the postal service as well, but we are at their mercy. We have several materials that have been delayed due to weather conditions. It's just the nature of the system.
How exactly do you setup the edge with ttech steel grip n cartridges? To get the right length for needle stroke?
I have never used a machine like this, just got it in today and I am not sure how to actually set it up!
T-Tech grip uses a bore Inner Diameter that's different than Hawk, inkjecta or RPG grip line. To the best of my knowledge, it is the only one that uses this inner diameter at the moment as TatSoul, that was using this inner diameter in their tubes has discontinued it and it is also going to standard bore diameter.
You have several options:
Remove the ball that comes with your TTech plunger and install it in our DrivePin ensuring the overall length of the drive pin remains 33.5mm total from top to bottom
2- switch to Diaposable or Autoclavable tubes that accept 3mm plungers end ball drive bars or the 1.5mm plungerless drive bars like the RPG grip line.
Should you have any questions feel free to email us. There are also some videos on YouTube if you would like to check out.
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Thanks Gaston!
After reading everything on here about this machine, I am curious, are people using more than one for a tattoo or switching the stroke during the tattoo? I was hoping for a machine that only the voltage would need to be changed to move between shading and lining. Or am I misreading all the number talk?
I think you just need to tattoo and have fun with it. If you'd need more than one machine only yourself can determine that. You can literally do anything with it. There are people tattooing with one machine that doesn't even have the adjustability option of stroke or give and they can perform great work regardless.Quote:
Originally Posted by brandonmull
The machine can run anywhere from 6 up to 12 volts without issues, dial them up as you go to learn what voltage work the best for you.
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