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yes i have write too about false infos that i have get and have send this false infos to friends here ! because this i was very disapointed- after i write this here and now realise they have ripping john really i get a mail on my fb account from Lacenano. Any send infos from here to lacenano or they are onboard. But i think its not nice to go undercover in a Forum to spy. Thats shows one times more how this guys thinking about.
i as well was quoted by them as well. I did contact them and let them know that I was pissed that I was quoted with out asking me if they could. Sadly this is playing out in a very childish way. I was also contacted by the lead designer and asked if I could post on his behalf to the forum because he said he was blocked from here. But I can not do that for him no more the I would post for John either. I really can only take a neutral and more grown up position with this whole aspect of the design of the machine and who did what to who aspect of this circumstance.Quote:
Originally Posted by fkirons
Like many "system type" tattoo machine and power supply set ups. This machine will more then likely go the way of others full system setups like air powered and pulse magnetic machines in the past.
Johns machine ins has the advantage of being able to be brought in alongside our existing equipment to compliment what we already have in our arsenal of machines and will work with our already purchased power supplies.
the other machine will require an investment that does not easily integrate with existing setups, and there fore will be a monetary hurdle for some if not most.
But the the truely sad part is this has turned into a fight over boys and their toys. Sooner or later we will get ripped off by some one some where. And the only way to fight that is to build the best product and to do it with integrity. This fighting and name calling and creating spoof Facebook pages only makes us as tattoo artists look like children fighting over a toy, and it's really sad. I have been following this to pick quite closely and it has become down right sad that grown men are acting like this, I have much respect for all of you, both artists and builders alike. We will make this business of tattooing what we want it to be, but to continue acting like only "we" in the business have the right to do something is just silly, and that outsiders have no business in our business is paramount to telling every supplier to go and fuck off, I'm sure most suppliers don't have a full staff that are artists as well. That would be silly to expect it.
Im not defending "the nano" or am I taking Johns side in this matter, as they are grown men and its their issues to work out. Let them work it out and let's all be done with it. Because I can point out many similarities between many different machines made by numerous builders throughout machine building history. Does that make all machines rip offs? I would say maybe so. Repackaged and shipped to our doors and we gladly use them.
John posted a side by side comparison photo on Facebook. I never looked at them that close before. Everything is in the same places. The only change is that the magnet is shifted so that the needle stays up. No support from me.
I feel John's frustration. Working so hard on and idea to be raped like this, truly enrages you.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsDen
Not trying to beat a dead horse (but I actually am) but I actually own John's machine and have never paid much attention to the Lace Nano design until now. The other day I wasn't sure if I still had Clark's machine so I went to my box of machines and found it. I've never used the machine but after comparing it with photos from the Lace Nano website I was totally shocked! They indeed stole every single component of that mechanism.
For someone with no machine experience to have stumbled upon all this exact parts and mechanism by coincidence is nearly impossible to believe. They are taking pre orders on a machine that they don't have. I've heard that some people are being scammed and walked around as well.
This in fact is not about a machine but instead about the amount of opportunists that never tattooed or have tattoos and they claim to have brought salvation to earth for all of us.
People like this need to be unmasked and everybody should know who they really are. We've seen people get robbed with pre orders and promises too often these days.
I say watch your hard earned money and do not do business with thieves and people that have never supported this industry.
Now, they can quote me on this if they want.
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Posting quotes from the forum without asking the people who made them and not answering questions about their machine even though they are on here grabbing quotes to use, seems like some sketchy folk IMHO.
Fuck lace nano!!!,, ima make fun of anyone I see useing one.,be warned!,.and I will tell them that there tattoos they make with it suck,, even if there hella good.,I don't give a fuck..---- quote that shit,,
This situation reminds me of the stealth rotary that copied the swiss machine. A lot of people where hating on that yet it seemed like everyone had one. . .
thats right but i think the lane is not a good machine and the builder write a lot of wrong infos on his site. Its need a special power supply like the pulse matic system and that sells bad too because this. No one is knowing what infos are false on the lano site -so i think a lot will be very surprised
my new rotary stops abar up, weighs 3.6oz and has a hand built brushless motor that uses any power supply
i have a valid question, is there any possibility that the inspiration for both machines came from a single point and neither builder realizes that the same thing inspired both? This happens everyday worldwide with many different situations, we are all connected to a mental energy that few acknowledge. just a thought.