I want to take the leap and get a nice drawing tablet-bought one years ago and it sucked balls -was very hard to work with. End up taking it back after a few days.
Any suggestions?
I want to take the leap and get a nice drawing tablet-bought one years ago and it sucked balls -was very hard to work with. End up taking it back after a few days.
Any suggestions?
honestly the screen/tablets are the best - but NOT cheap
I've been using an Ipad, ProCreate drawing app, and the pressure sensitive Adonit stylus. I've never used a dedicated drawing tablet to be able to compare to, but it has worked for me so far. Plus, there are always new drawing apps coming out, most are crappy, but some are good. I have a couple for vector drawing and ProCreate for more realistic drawing tools
Any good brands/models you know?Quote:
Originally Posted by nivek
The Wacom Cintiq would be the goto for a monitor/tablet combo. but you are most likely to spend at least 1k USD. The owner of the shop I work at uses his to do all of his tattoo prep drawing.
Wacom companion are really good but pricey (just be careful as there is a new model coming soon), on a lower budget a microsoft surface pro 3, i would recommend to go for the core i5. Or on an even lower budget a used or refurbished fujitsu lifebook (t901, t902). All run on windows and are fully able to run photoshop, on a 13 inches display except for the surface pro which is a 12.
My vote would be for the surface pro.
yea i like the idea of a all in one monitor type.
I bought a motion Computing tablet pc with built in Wacom screen for less than 150€ on eBay. It isn't crazy fast but for drawing it's fine and it is pressure sensitive. I love drawing directly on the screen and it is better than my iPad Air 2 with Wacom stylus or Adonit stylus ( I have both )Quote:
Originally Posted by slicksteel
As mentioned Wacom has pretty much cemented their name. a friend has a pen a touch display - set her back around $2700 - its like drawing on a screen, she uses mostly adobe products. I got to play with it and man - its pretty awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by slicksteel
That being said - once the learning curve is over drawing with a non display pen works well.
Also, there are several lesser known brands that are MUCH cheaper than the wacom. Genius is the brand I got and for the same price as a 6 by 8 a very large one my brain says it was $120.
If any one has one of those "motion Computing tablet pc" i have a used eikon es300 i would trade for one.
They are on eBay all day everyday and the le1600 or le1700 should be under 200$ lots of times under 150$. Sell that eikon for 150$ - 200$ and buy one.Quote:
Originally Posted by slicksteel
I´ve used a cintiq for many years and for a long time nothing matched the graphic tablets from wacom...now I tried one from Yiynova and what shall I say...works perfect for a third of the price of a new Wacom Cintiq.
try bosto ...i have the HDX22 and its great and a way better and cheaper as the wacoms :)
the yiynova looks very intertesting
i am also in the market for one.....thanks for all the suggestions guys!
Yiynova is great too but lack on screen and is not a feather from weight. You should god test and inspect the screen -a lot hat drouble and pixel issue or after a time of use a black screen. I dont knowing that yiynova have fixed this. But Bosto has some issue to on the first batch of tablets.
Cintiq is the best you can get. I have worked with those for a couple of years... But they cost a fortune.
Now I have a Yiynova Msp19u+ at home and, despite some driver issues and a lower resolution screen and a not-so-good viewing angle it's awesome for the price. I draw comics and shit on the side and the Yiynova is faster reacting than the Cintiq. For a third of the price!
If you're not a professional graphics artist or photographer that needs a 100 % accuracy on colours, go for the Yiynova.
Oh, and I have an older Yiynova. There is newer with bigger and better screens, but I haven't tried them, so I cannot vouch for them.
thats was i mean with the screen and on the first run they have some trouble with the quality - the bosto have the HD screen and is better yiynova. Most artist dont like cintiq with the time because the pen area is scratched fast. And HD on a 13" is not good for the eyes for a longer time. The wire is very thick and rigid and the display get hot with the time. The Pressure is better to regulate with the other brands. The most use the zoom to change the brush size because some issue to get this over the pressure :(
I use the 1st gen cintiq screen I bought it off eBay for £800 hardly used. I don't get close to use it to its full potential but far cheaper than a new one. I also got a samsung note 10.1 2014 tablet a that's great wacom designed the screen for samsung it's just like a mini version of wacom companion but far cheaper. I work on my cintiq then export the image to Dropbox then open the image on my tablet at work, and use a art programme if i need to flip or in large on the fly in stead of using print outs.
wacom companion with photoshop cc is all you will ever need. it's worth more than they cost. i also have a surface pro 3 and it doesn't even come close to comparing with the wacom. I use the surface for work because it's small and easy for travel but it sucks for actual painting.
Attachment 27156 this is the back of my business card. 5 hr banger, no reference.
and wacom sells rubber tipped nibs that don't scratch the screen. i have hundreds of hrs on it and the screen is not scratched. i will never settle for a cheaper, lesser product. in a yr is a little bit of money going to matter?
i just got an old galaxy note on craigslist and i love it. i really dont need high resolution because anything i do digitally, i just use for tattoo or painting/drawing reference. and its quick and has touch response and the stylus is nice. i have a new ipad and im about to sell it because i love the galaxy way way way better. its cheap and really unless you're putting out a book or actually selling digital prints or something, its perfect. my 2. probably never buy a wacom though id like to, but realistically, im not gonna be doing commercial digital art. Attachment 27157 this was the very first one i did on the galaxy. front of a new business card
note 10.1 old model.
Has anyone tried the Nvidia shield? It comes with its own software; Dabbler which is supposedly watercolour and oil painting and seems to have all the touch sensitive stuff built in plus when you are bored its pretty damn good for games lol!
Definitely the way to go is a Wacom cintiq companion, not the companion hybrid. The Hybrid can double as a screen when you plug it in to the computer, but when used alond it is an android tabled and cannot run photoshop. Photoshop is really the only program you'll ever need. You can try other shit, but eventually you will just be working your way up to photoshop.
The Competitor really is the Microsoft Surface pro, the main difference being the larger border on the cintiq (which is basically for resting your hand on while you draw) and programable buttons.
These tablets differ from other tablets in the programability and pressuer sensativity, and the fact that they are windows 8 and not Android OS.
I'm starting a shop and Will be buying a Cintiq for the shop for sure. At this point, I think it is vital. If you want to get your toe wet however you can get a Wacom intuos5 at best buy for like $350 or cheaper online. It is a little difficult to get over the hand eye coordination exercises that you can do that will get you over that in a week. The advantages are that it is a lot cheaper, your monitor is probably bigger than a tablet screen and your hand is not in the way.
Just something I've had a lot of experience with in the last couple of years.
I think I'm going to do some videos on digital topics like this if anyone is interested.
This was my dilemma for quite a few years since the first cintiq came out. I recently ordered the Cintiq companion, although it's a good device and perhaps one of the best portables, I felt like it was too heavy for needs on the go. I also have some Wacom pens for the iPad but they are still far from being ok. I wish I can get all the features of the Cintiq on an iPad. That would satisfy all my drawing needs on the go.
I am about to get a surface Pro. I think that might be the best of both worlds even thought you don't get all the levels of sensitivity as the ones you get with the Cintiq but being able to draw, launch SolidWorks and do minor 3D would be a home run for me. I am hoping Wacom can come up with a more accurate pen for the iPad.
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I've had the cintiq companion and sent it back, it's screen is far to small for the size of companion, it lags when using large brushes on photoshop, it's got not enough ram which it shares with the graphics card, not enough usb ports and for £1500 far to over priced. The new Companion is out soon, but yet again it lacks in usable screen size because they don't take the screen up to the edge it has two large boarders, they have upped the ram size and made some other options but again it's not hitting all the marks....
have you tried the adobe ink and slide? http://www.adonit.net/adobe-ink-slide/Quote:
Originally Posted by fkirons
I don't have an ipad anymore. i have the cintiq companion and a surface pro 3. my surface isn't very impressive with ps. glossy screen sucks and the pressure sensitivity sucks too. good for work, but not for finished paintings. the companion is heavy and a beast but the fact that you can completely shut off the touch and zoom 3200% makes it a lot better for me anyway. also, the surface kickstand slowly closes while trying to paint and it's super annoying. i like the companion solid adjustable stand way better.
i broke in and bought a surface pro today. I am liking it so far. I do not want it for high end painting or anything like that. What I do the most is sketch, and do some solidwork while im omn the road. I installed SolidWorks and I am pretty impressed. Haven't messed with anytying too complicated yet.
Drawing, is pretty accurate to me, for what the table is.
Super light and portable is what I was looking for.
The levels of sensitivity are not bad for what I was looking for neither so so far it has been working great for me.
It is def not a replacement for a desktop cintiq but I prefer to sacrifice a few features in order to be able to carry just one device for all my graphic needs on the road.
Now, if Apple would just release a Phablet with Pen....I'm sure the rest will be history.
Well I think the best tablet is the Samsung note they now do a 12.1, the screen was designed for them by wacom hence the small nip stylus. Only problem is it runs android so no poser, photoshop or zbrush. But it has got other programs which are good. I work from my note 10.1 all time. Easy to carry and a good stand makes to easy to see my reference, zoom in or out no more crap print offs.
There is a photoshop express for Android
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...psmobile&hl=en
I run photoshop touch on my Galaxy Note 12.2 and love it. New to me though!
I use a macbook and an older macbook pro.. I run Adobe CS2 (the free unsupported version) which for the limited applications I use it for it works reasonably well..
I like the look of the Wacom Intuos control pads.. they'd let me continue working with my macs and give me the added controllability to start drawing/designing in Photoshop or Sketchbook pro (which also looks to be a very good option). However.. my main problem with the Intuos is the disconnection between your hand and eye... How does this reflect in reality?
I'm pretty much sold on the Intuos Pro version for all its specs... But that hand/eye thing??......
Well I had the Surface pro for a few days and I like it so far for one thing: Sketch Book Pro. I completely dislike PCs :/
It's really hard as a mac user to even consider a PC tablet for decent work. I just hope Apple would come up with a solution to this :)
I also received today an Adonit Jot Touch with Pixel Point Stylus, that promises to have most of the issues that other stylus have with the Ipad.
It has over 2000 levels of sensitivity and seems to have the stair casing issue when making diagonal lines solved.
I will Try it today and see whats up.
oh I soo hear you man! like I say I really like the look and specs of the Intuos... I already have two macs so do I really need a pc as well??Quote:
Originally Posted by fkirons
I have found a decent price on a Wacom - Cintiq Companion Hybrid but not too sure about them (researching atm)... can they connect to the internet? can they run Sketchbook Pro?
Edit..... Just been looking at the Adonit Jot Touch with Pixel Point Stylus... could be very good option, and give me the excuse to buy get an iPad ;).. please let me know if how this works Gaston.....
btw I presume you can rotate the canvas pretty easily on the iPad in both Photoshop and Sketchbook Pro.. Yes?
I brought the Wacom cintiq 13hd a few weeks ago, $1000aus, it's a bit tricky to get used to but I havn't used photoshop before.
The down side is you can only use it plugged into computer which I find inconvenient, it does not have wifi capabilities.
I would recommend spending the extra and getting the larger 22hd size.
You could always buy a modbook for 5k lol. I had the older version and it was a tank and they had some issues back then.
Well. Here is my feedback regarding all Styluses on iPad.
Aside from the old school fat rubber tip ones, the rest are just garbage.
The Bluetooth technology, capacitive display of iPad and fine point Styluses is nowhere close to the accuracy of the Wacom systems. At least is not just there yet.
All iPad Styluses have the same issues:
- Stair casing issues when drawing curves and diagonal lines.
- Inaccuracy. They are all off by several millimeters from the tip. Super inaccurate when drawing slow.
- Slow performance. Big lag issues.
- Noisy. I could deal with the noise if they work well. But since they don't, noise just makes the issues even more annoying.
-Expensive. I spent over $600 trying them all out. Save yourself some money and just stay away from all fancy fine too styluses. They all offer you something good that make you believe they are the one but they are all the same.
- Adonit makes a big claim about PixelPoint Technology. I don't know if Wacom Ipad styluses use the same technology but they all perform equally as bad.
- Wacom styluses do not deliver the same Wacom experience on the iPad. In fact nowhere close.
Bottom line. If iPad is your thing. Stick to the old fat rubber tip ones. They are as cheap as $5 on Amazon. The difference between the more expensive and less expensive fat tip is just the price and in some cases, quality.
If you are into pro Sketching, Wacom has this dialed in, into a science. I still use my Intuo that I have from several years ago and it's a pleasure to work with. Specially to make stencils of portraits. :) New Layer Over the image., Zoom in- Zoom out, Trace, hide background image, resize and print!
Made a mistake? Don't worry.! Just undo!
If you want to be somewhere between portable and home, you can go with a Cintiq Companion. I Personally didn't like it just because of its weight and even though is mic more portable than other Wacom versions I found the need to carry my computer for all my tasks other than sketching. Oh and the kickStand display is horrible. I don't know how they were able to design such an amazing piece and slack on the kickstand. Despite my beef with its weight it does performs amazing. Just not what I'm looking for at the moment.
If you don't do a lot of sketching on the go, invest the same amount of money (or a little more )on a bad ass Wacom desktop system.
If you want something in Between the Cintiq Companion but more portable, the surface pro delivers power, windows operating system and similar results at a much lower price, smaller screen and fewer sensitivity levels.
If you are looking for a super portable, efficient, and powerful setup, Wel...keep waiting because you are in the same boat as I am and no one has delivered something that captures the best of all worlds into one device yet.
My $ .02
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I am really tempted but seem pretty bulky still and expensive . Maybe be the only option for Mac + Wacom fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreviltattoo
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Wowsa great feedback Gaston!Quote:
Originally Posted by fkirons
So you use the Intuos??.... Like I've said before, as far as I can see it offers the best specs and keeps me in my known tried and tested (and loved) macs.. It is just the hand/eye coordination that bothers me (don't want to repeat myself).. how does it affect you when you're tattooing, if you draw say 90% of the time on it?
I've been around the block the last few days researching like a mother.. my bloody head is aching with all the options/jargon/pros/cons/ etc...
The last option now that I'm also looking at is a cheaper Samsung Galaxy Note..... and run it with Sketchbook Pro.. I don't really need photoshop if I'm honest.. Sketchbook Pro has all that I'd need and more.. The Samsung Notes have quite a bit lower specs tablet wise than the Intuos but at least you draw directly onto the screen..
Regarding the Wacom Companion.. there's a lot of very mixed reviews about them.. The highlighted part is a major concern for me too...
There is also the version 2 right around the corner..
:)
1st page.. and here could be the perfect solution!!Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsDen
looks to be a winner man .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXWWH5TtNBw
So you can do it all on this I reckon.. gonna do some more research on these..
I am waiting for a crossbreed to happen between a 15" iPad + a Cintiq + a MacBook Pro. That would be an everyday portable device. One day....Quote:
Originally Posted by ATS
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