I bought this on ebay. Got it off cheap, thinks it all new. anybody see anything wrong? like china copy or?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SWASHDRIVE-W...ht_2707wt_1219
Thanks.
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I bought this on ebay. Got it off cheap, thinks it all new. anybody see anything wrong? like china copy or?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SWASHDRIVE-W...ht_2707wt_1219
Thanks.
Congratulation,he has 3 left from 10 !!!!
Cant see it lasting...cheap chinese rubbish for sure!
You crack me up!LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Zapp
No only 3 left of 10...this is what pisses me the shit off me. People making a good profit off knock offs without a single effort and thanks to someones handwork. GRRRRRRRRRRR
i didn't pay yet. only bid on it. all think its fake?
Wow that's one expensive copy !!! There on there for less than Ģ50 now.
Sinners the title says swashdrive whip STYLE - that says it allQuote:
Originally Posted by Sinnersink
Fake swashes go for 120-150 $ they look like exact copies on the outside. Scary.
Doh!
Sinnersink you might want to try and retract that bid ASAP. Not only is it a crap Chinese knockoff but a very overpriced one at that...
Haha dont worry. I dont pay
now is 77 bucks...LOL
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Rotary-T...item3cc414cd39
that one is also worse copy haha:)
cīmon!!!!!itīs purple! everybody knows purple machines is high quality!
Now you see its a copy,bevor you have told us you have bought one from a supplyer who have 3 from 10 in stock and sell also "FIREFLY " Machines!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinnersink
cīmon ;-)
last time i checked this seller didnt sell anything else than that machine. cmon what? why so grudged by me asking weather i should pay my bid or not, or if this is a copy ? i dont even know why people get mad over shit like that in here, to much inner anger guys.
U should go yell ur wrath out in a room. i dont know whats wrong, mad that ur not evolving or what it is.
I buy my gear, top quality, i got lots of work, i do more proper tattos than 90% on this forum. Quit hate.
Just because the ability to see weather its fake or not doesnt make u a better person haha.
And at last. Thanks for the nice and polite answers!
This is such a nice and helpful community, I've learned so much here, some fantastic people- artists I admire, but sadly there are also a few snobs, which is exactly what I thought this culture is against ?
Shnobs you say?!? Oh dear, I say it appears we're out of sherry!
hey bro if you get banned from here I wouldn't be surprised...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinnersink
I was only trying to look out for you sin, I've been duped by an early Chinese knockoff of a Cain spiral when they just came out and it's a sucky feeling. Sure there's truth that a machine doesn't make an Artist, but I couldn't produce the quality and quantity of work as I do without my quality tools. I'd rather have my small arsenal of nice machines than a garbage bag full of cheap junk machines.
I wouldnt be polite to you...after that statement its obvious you are a grade A cock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinnersink
at leaste dude is humble... he is better than 90% of us on this forum. WOW...
Yea thats why i come to u and ask polite, if this machine is okay. why have another unpolite attitude back?. Im just bored out of people jacking everybody down man. I ask polite and i send regards. Why don't do the same?
Why people need to be "BETTER" than me. just because they have been on the forum for longer time. What i mean about this is not at all u take it. I just don't want to get ruted down by people, than really don't got shit on king kong.
If anybody took this in the different way, that it was meant, i am truly sorry. The best builders of the world and some of the best artist is in here.
its just snobby, fkirons why react like this? Ur not being a deuce in here at all? Why people take this so offensive? its just snobby... If people thinks I'm a idiot for putting up a question weather this machine is okay or not, then don't answer the thread, is it harder than that?.
And over exaturating gives understanding. I think this is the best forum around this globe, but that doesn't mean deuces won't appear.
exactly auerilien. thanks for a very nice answer. It looks the same, how would i know?
Sorry for whoever i offended, i felt cornered!
Zapp, the first WHIP he showed us he was going to buy is identical to the original the second chinese copy is quite obviously notQuote:
Originally Posted by Zapp
To "recalibrate the thread" The problem is that most copies don't look like copies anymore. It will soon be very hard to tell the difference between the original and the replica. The only way will be to run them and of course over the internet it's impossible. With the proliferation of distributors, specially in europe ( we don't have national, pulse etc ... companies, they 're just all new comers) so it's hard to tell if the guys are gonna be honnest and provide the right machine or just try to fuck everyone up and put up overpriced copies. I bet my ass we 'll soon have to go back to conventions buy only system.
Just to show you guys, in France we cannot order tattoo equipment over eBay. So to be fair I couldn't even tell if the copy was good or not ah ah
Also I keep missing out on good deals I'm sure. Stupid censorship. Because of that, to illustrate what I said earlier, distributors here by chinese disposable grips and needles then sell it to us over priced.Attachment 8567
Thanks, thats is crazy, and will make the buying of machines much harder, but I'm thinking on these forums contacting the personal builder will be the way to cut all the second links, and the chance of buying copies.
But actually i understand that, ebay is becoming one big cheat on the tattoo machine market.
Same in denmark, our suppliers is buying chinese shit, selling "start kits" for 500 dollar like the chinese on ebay for 120 dollars.
chinese disposables. U can't even get a good disposable quality.
Why is ebay to blame ?...Surely it is the fault of the Companies who produce the Shit and Sell on ebay.I don't feel sorry for anyone who buys a copy from ebay, doesn't matter if it is a Handbag or a tattoo machine, if it is a copy, then it is your own fault.Do your homework first, check what else the Seller has Sold.Contact the Builder, and if lucky they might tell you if it is the real deal.....You only get what you pay for, there are genuine bargains...BUT, we all know they are few and far between....Buy from the Builder direct,simple....Peace,P...
Remember, ebay is only a "host" site, therefore, within reason, they will Sell just about anything that the Sellers wish to advertise..In this instance I feel the need to mis-quote...Don't blame the Game, Blame the Players
too true ebay do show a certain degree of responsibility in alot of there sales but tattooing isnt one of them . i myself have purchased a couple of cheap machines out of interest and found most of them to be of poor quality . the stealth copy is pretty good and not much difference to the real one in performance , maybe i was lucky who knows . these whip copys look ok i have a real one which im not too keen on and if they were selling these that cheap at the time i would have probably bought one to try first instead of shelling out 400-500 on a machine that sits in a drawer , a sort of try before you buy. we will have to wait and see if they are any good who knows they might be . something to take into consideration is that at what price does it cost to build a real swashdrive whip ,not much im betting so who is ripping who off its not clear .
Andy, if you don't like the whip I'm sure you could sell or trade it to someone here, they have a following, provided of course that you can provide proof that it's real;)
I don't get though how you think buying a cheap knockoff to test will give you any indication of what it's like to run the real version. It's like wanting to drive a Porsche but to 'test' it out getting a Dodge Neon and painting 'Porsche' on the side.
I can't see these been hard to copy to a good degree as they are pretty basic machines if everyone is been honest . A stigma on the other hand are quite complicated machines and has had alot more engineering knowhow used to make them. I'm Not telling people to buy them I'm just saying I personally would of tried this first to see what there like. I like new gadgets that come out I'm like a magpie and have more machines than I could ever possibly need . Somebody who is honest and uses a whip on a regular basis needs to buy one for a real comparison Only someone in that position to tell the truth. I know one thing the Chinese are getting onto these expensive machines like a rash stigma will be next on the production Line just a matter of time . A sad but true fact
stigma machines are already coppied. Been coppied for some time. The mantis is a copy of the old bizzare isn't it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andythetemple
I reported the fake mikey sharpz copies to ebay n you dont have to pay. Its under copyright infringement. Ebay is actually good about that they will pull the item if u make a complaint
They copied the hawk n its complicated be very careful buying machines off ebay with your hard earned cash. They are forging signatures numbers complicated machines u name it an the chinks jack it.
I use the hawk spirit for realism and grqbbed a chinese copy to check it out n maybe get a cheap grip out of the deal. No way theres about 1mm of stroke and the only place it would go deep enough to keep in in would be on someones calf. It cant even get the ink in deep enough with that much needle travel
This is China goods - there are people who want to buy to buy there, only to then complain when NOT running not for real, I can produce 10 000 machines for sale - great great - but what does it all - NOTHING just SHIT and NO GOOD WORK RESULTS
TATTOO ARTIST Professional buy something NOT
It will probably break... it will not have the same quality of motor in it and will not last.... Genuine swashdrive whips only cost about $500 AU... not a big investment for the quality you are getting....