Original Cheyenne

I have an original hawk with the ttech setup and have been tattooing wih it for the past 4 months. I have been thinkig about picking up another machine here and i am really intrestes in the newer thunder.

My question is, is the original a better machine than the newer thunder? would I have to switch up my regular power supply that I use now? I have the adapter cord with my original hawk. i hear the thunder is great for lining. I haven't had any problems lining with the original. The Cheyenne is just a pretty sweet machine and really want another lol.

you would have to use the start up cord or buy the newer power supply with the startup chip inside it.

what about motor? Is there much of a difference, asidefrom the stroke?

I have heard the new one has a faster and higher torque motor to push the longer stroke-i have the thunder and it is amazing.

that sounds nice. so have you tattooed with both? I just checked out your profile and it says you're from San Jose. my buddy is apprenticing at Death Before Dishonor

i been using the hawk for a while now, and just picked up a Bishop for the first time, and although it is a solid machine I definitely feel that the Cheyenne is more suited To my needs

check out tommy lee's work with all of the hawk versions,amazing as alot of people say they are no good for bng!
https://www.facebook.com/tommyleewendtner

I have not tattooed with the first one.

wow, his work is awesome! Im a big fan of Carl grace who also uses the thunder

Hey all,

I've been using the cheyenne equipment for about a year now, been using all three.

the hawk has a 2mm throw, the spirit has a 2.5mm throw and the thunder has a 4mm throw.

love using the first two for colour blending and black and grey. But the thunder is a fantastic tool, it does the lot including lining. To be honest I've been using the thunder for every tattoo I've done for the last four months.

hope this helps (get a thunder :-))

sounds good to me. Im on the hunt! lol

tommy lee uses the spirit model

The black n grey was done with a spirit but I've now got rid and use a hm for my b n g now

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that's a prettysick piece dude. zero outline on the skull?

Thanks Yep no outline just shading if I needed to go tight in I would have used my dragonfly ss with a magicmoon LT 3 00.

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was trying to quote the magicmoon thing lik

Type of needle used 00 size Long Taper. Magicmoon.com

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gotcha! Post some.more pics of your black and grey man. very clean

The original Hawk has a 2.5 mm stroke and the Hawk Spirit has a 3mm stroke The thunder has a 4mm stroke. I have been using Cheyenne products since the release of there condor in europe, i currently own all of Cheyennes machines. I will say that Cheyenne really makes some great stuff ive had my original Hawk for almost 4 years and no problems with the motor yet. Both the Spirit and Thunder are amazing machines both are versatile in every field of tattooing. The Thunder has a more powerful faster motor if you own an eikon ems 400 then the thunder will work fine without the startup cord otherwise you will need to purchase a startup cord. Cheyenne is doing really great things as Jeff Gogue has recently joined the team along with Jess Yen. Next year i heard they will be releasing a wireless machine. I have tried many other rotary machines from Stigma to Dragonfly, bishops, neotats and many more all of them being good machines they just dont last as long as a Cheyenne machine.

When I moved from the Hawk to the Thunder I wasn't convinced it was any better. The startup cable didn't work all the time and I ended up having to get the Cheyenne psu.
It does make lining a little easier and quicker but that's all really.
As I mainly do black n grey I've been thinking of buying a spirit to see if that suits me a bit more like the original.

Btw I didn't think the hawk and spirit had different strokes,

The problem with Cheyenne is the tips when they first started the tips matched the needle groupings but now it's cheaper to do the same tip for a 8round as a 3 liner. Good if you use t-tech which are cheap at you get 20 tips for you money but bad if you pay just under £30 for 10, the quality has gone down hill a little since I first started to use my hawk.

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Yeah i mean, They do need to lower the prices a bit for the cartridges, A little steep. I understand the quality is Great, which is awesome, but its hard to set up a tattoo when you need 3 different needles which they end up running you in the end 9-10 bucks on a smaller tattoo. thats why i ordered t tech for my set up on smaller tattoos.