needle runners

please point me in the direction of the best needle runners for standard metal tubes.
and are they any good to use?

https://needlerunner.com/suppliers.asp Pretty sure there's only one Needle Runner, I've found the new ones "easy click" will fit any tube as long as its a one piece tube stem with no joints...They fit disposables no probs and click on the needle bars real easy...I actually use them on every machine I run, except the Neos, once they are on the bar lube them up a bit with some Vaseline or whatever lube your using to tattoo with and they work like a dream...

tatsoul ones any good?

oh ok.. same ones

Ive used them a couple times they work a little bit but they're really not that necessary in my opinion

Have you ever seen guys with a million rubber bands on their machines or o rings galore to stabilize it.....ONE needlerunner and the machine is like a laser...I have machines that run wonky at higher volts and the needlebar wobbles all over the place with rubber bands :/ click on one needle runner and that machine will stabilize at any volt range.....Necessary? No, Preferred? Yes

:mad: Ive never seen theas things ? How many of you use them ? And are they worth while ?

Central tattoo supplies do nice runners,, more consitant than bands

Thanks Blue. I get my supplies from STARR Tattoo Supplies. I see they do some . . . Anyone know if hose are ok ?

Got it wrong. . . They dont.

the original fit the tatsoul bars better and go on easy but stay on better then the new ones which are looser. All other brands needlebars use the new ones unless it is a thinner bar like the tatsoul ones.

If it aint broke why fix it? Rubber bands sit the needle better in my opinion.

I use both, and I will say on direct drives, especially with a long throw, needlerunners are way superior for the job. They greatly reduce the side to side waver on the bar which can make an awful noise. Personally I like needlerunners ,they also really compliment the DK crankers for some really smooth outline work.

i tried em... threw em in the trash