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I would say a refund will not be coming, forget about it and class it as a right off. If anyone paid via paypal as goods or service within the last 6 months you can still claim your money back. Call paypal, explain it was a pre order and they can help. Unfortunately I paid as gift as I have way too much faith in humans, so have no chance of a refund!
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I was lucky enough to put it through my cc - that is exactly why i'll eat the costs before I send as gift.
Its really too bad I had hopes for these and the guy seemed like a good guy. I still hold out hope he'll refund when he can.
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I think too -we have lost our hard earned money - and learning from them . Always no info ,he dont reply on phone and lie in every mail ...talk always the same but doing nothing . And now i personaly dont like this machine any more and dont like work with this shit. I have Seen machines for trade \sale ...so some get machines
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This is a tarnish on the industry for any people asking for help with starting up.bad stuff man.
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so is this still a dead situation? Has anyone received a machine?
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Yep with all our money. Nice to fund people's lives with nothing in return. I think people would be fine waiting if he reported on how things was going... well how he's going to show his face at show and conventions with people knowing what he done.... karma is all I'm saying.. being in the UK I don't have a hope in hell in getting mine.. that money could been spent at fk irons and I would have received my machine..lesson learnt. Now that's put a damping on people buying into preproduction models to help them out.
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damn right. I was one to support the small guys trying to get a foot in but after having been ripped off and lied to i will back up the big guys. I'm in Australia so no hope to get mine back either. I did send admin a message to see if they could get hold of him and talk to him but i never heard back from them either, which is a shame because they have some sort of responsibility as well. They let the guy in and we took it as he's trustworthy and of course i know they can,t control him ripping us off
but being the mediator would be a good start.
I wonder how many got ripped off?
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Enough that he made a small fortune it seems.
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This is my first time getting ripped off this way so openly. With so many people being ripped off at once this may be suitable for a class action lawsuit.
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