I was just reading my earlier post on this thread before I got my halo, talking on how I didn't think the halos give would matter all that much to me, lol. now the give is my favorite part. its crazy I got used to no give machines and still love my vivace, but I cant believe how much the halos give matters! I want to try some modifications on my give springs but would pry order a couple first just incase I didn't dig it, probably do that here soon