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    Next question is very important to me... In my opinion the Halo motor is very high torque... and you ever gonna release a lower torque version.. something with less impact like the dragonfly motor?

    I think the Symbeos' use of 3 motors is very very smart...

    Just curious...

    and also how far along is the aura?
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    Quote Originally Posted by crabink View Post
    Next question is very important to me... In my opinion the Halo motor is very high torque... and you ever gonna release a lower torque version.. something with less impact like the dragonfly motor?

    I think the Symbeos' use of 3 motors is very very smart...

    Just curious...

    and also how far along is the aura?
    Hi Crab:
    When I hear this subject, I assume that there it may be a misconception between give and torque. A motor with low torque will stall when less resistance is applied than a motor with a higher torque output. Are you referring to a machine that bogs down due to a lack of power? If so, this is not the same scenario as coil machines or machines with give system where a machine can run the needles while giving a spring mechanism designed to offer such performance.

    We haven't found the need to offer a motor with weak torque output. Our two rotaries (Halo and Direkt) are machines with a versatile motor where a user can push anything from a single needle to a 50 magnum without the lack of power. If you want a machine to run at lower rpms, simply drop the voltage.

    If you want a machine to give in, simply get a machine with a give system. You will need a machine with power even when the bogging down effect is needed, otherwise you will be applying counter resistance to the motor that could end up killing the motor due to the lack of power. As of today, a machine with a weak motor has not made sense yet to our research and development. We are not saying that is wrong, all we are saying is we have not found a logical use for a low torque motor in our machine engineering.

    Perhaps other builders can fill in the gap and give their own experience regarding this matter. As I've heard this subject been brought up several times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fkirons View Post
    Hi Crab:
    When I hear this subject, I assume that there it may be a misconception between give and torque. A motor with low torque will stall when less resistance is applied than a motor with a higher torque output. Are you referring to a machine that bogs down due to a lack of power? If so, this is not the same scenario as coil machines or machines with give system where a machine can run the needles while giving a spring mechanism designed to offer such performance.

    We haven't found the need to offer a motor with weak torque output. Our two rotaries (Halo and Direkt) are machines with a versatile motor where a user can push anything from a single needle to a 50 magnum without the lack of power. If you want a machine to run at lower rpms, simply drop the voltage.

    If you want a machine to give in, simply get a machine with a give system. You will need a machine with power even when the bogging down effect is needed, otherwise you will be applying counter resistance to the motor that could end up killing the motor due to the lack of power. As of today, a machine with a weak motor has not made sense yet to our research and development. We are not saying that is wrong, all we are saying is we have not found a logical use for a low torque motor in our machine engineering.

    Perhaps other builders can fill in the gap and give their own experience regarding this matter. As I've heard this subject been brought up several times.
    We are here also to learn and listen.
    Understood .. i guess the reason I ask is my other artist uses a dragonfly and it seems to do way less trauma than a Halo ... the give system on the halo doesn't seem to take the bite of enough for me and it hits really hard and the dragonfly give is pretty soft when opened. I know lowering the volts will lower the hit, but i want to keep the nice precise speed than makes the needles flow.

    Is the Direkt motor the same as the halo.. because I would imagine that without a slider and other things in the path of resistance it would drive harder.

    Curious if you could talk about the halo vs Direct motors.
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