Yeah i have both versions. i bought a flex grip for the vice version. the vice version will require the combo version give bars to work with the flex grip. i have both versions so i have the bars. i also have used the vice version with wrath cart disposables with the rigid bar. I bought it for bangers so i wouldn't have to wrap my hawk grip all up and i use disp grip covers with the hawk version. I mostly do 5-7hr sessions so I have barely used the vice version. I think it's more versatile but i tend to stick to the same type of scheduled appts. I do one tattoo a day so i bought the vice version for when i have a reg client that demands i do there tiny shamrock tattoo or what not. i've also used it with a ttech pusher with the loop cut off and sanded smooth. i really like the hawk grip so i usually use the combo but the vice with the flex grip is the same and you can use ttech grips and other disposables, the RPG can be used if you cut a standard needle bar to length and file the ends smooth. Definately a lot of possibilities with the vice version. Either way, the flite is a super smooth and versitile machine. it has the only brushless motor (maxon) which means the hit doesn't change with the voltage is changed like most rotaries. and it's rated at like 24v and i have no idea how fast your hand would have to move to keep up with that. i like 9-12v. mostly 9.4, 3.5mm cam, and a 15 or 23 mag with a medium bar. here's a couple with those settings:
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color is in progress. 15long tapered mag, 7 long tapered mag, prob a 3 or 5 super tight liner just for highlights
skull piece was with a 23 curved mag and a liner for white highlights.
It's like having a hawk with a better motor and lots of options. and i have the thunder and spirit. the spirit lines like shit if you hang your needle out. i like to hang mine. it gets snaggy so i really just use it once in a while for black and grey. everything ends up collecting dust. i got the hawks and put everything else down including my stylus, now my hawks are sitting because i got the flites. who know what is next, but the flite is really impressive and I'll be happy to keep the dust off of it till the next big thing comes out.
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