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    Quote Originally Posted by hendricksonart.com View Post
    Sucked the needle up into the tube just a hair more problem solved. I use curved mags and had the middle of the needle hang just barely over the edge of the tube. Which just seemed to be a bit much for how I tattoo. Still like the machine, I think I just prefer a stroke a hair longer so I can use the tips more and see what im doing a little easier.
    You mention curved mags, I use them also, but the ones with only a slight curve. Too much curve might be forcing you into too much protrusion. Persevere with the Bishop, I have one,out of my arsenal it's the most versatile machine of all ,no fooling with adjustments,just turn it up or down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hendricksonart.com View Post
    Sucked the needle up into the tube just a hair more problem solved. I use curved mags and had the middle of the needle hang just barely over the edge of the tube. Which just seemed to be a bit much for how I tattoo. Still like the machine, I think I just prefer a stroke a hair longer so I can use the tips more and see what im doing a little easier.
    I use curved mags with my neotats as well. When my needles are in the uppermost position, if I have the longest part of the curved mags barely poking over the edge (when I was first starting to figure the neotats out) I would get snags also. I pulled them back as well, and no problems. You don't need the needles hanging out on those machines. They are so efficient - use a feather touch and black&grey with them = awesome.

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    Color has been an easy transition for me with rotarys because I run my shaders really high to color almost no give black and grey I really like a bogged down machine so its made black and grey with rotarys a hair harder to get the hang of. Large fields of light greys are a little trickier almost seems like a need to start using large mags. With coils because of the bogged down motion the needle is always hitting the same way regardless of hand motions. Ive seen it mentioned turning the machine up for black and grey do you guys do this?

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    I think it may be in the "techniques" section. I know there is a thread about large fields of black and grey in there. I turn my machines up a little, but not a lot. It's very strange going back to coils (for old time's sake) to do black and grey now. I'm so used to the light hand motions I use with my neotats that it takes me a few minutes to adjust when I'm using a coil again.

    My black and grey coil machines run SUPER SLOW, so that's a big adjustment for me as well.

    The thing with the neotats, is that the shorter the stroke, the faster the machine is at a given voltage. So when I use the short or medium stroke machines, they are naturally faster than my coloring neotat, so I really don't make much in the way of adjustments.

    Using my power supply (ems 400) I run my neotats between 7 and 8 (9 on occasion). Seems to work for me.

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    if u dont like the bishop you could always sell it to me lol

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