"New" Hawk Pen !!!!

[fkirons]

To end with this dispute once and for all:>>
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http://www.nouveaucontourusa.com/ind...vice-&catid=34

a) Nouveau which is a partner company of MT Derm I believe, they created a pen style machine like this years ago and I believe they have been in the market before the actual Hawk Machines and before you even thought that one day we would tattoo with a machine like these ones.
With that said they have the right to evolve on their own original idea.

b) The Marksman was the first tattoo pen style machine, good or bad , but it was the first one to challenge that design.

c) Now I get back to work.

[cagelavey]

It's all evolution, as we become more knowledgeable, technologically, intellectually, etc. New things are born from that.I think it's wrong to hinder advancement in any regard. There is like a mini government in the tattoo industry now, that hinders ingenuity, born from ignorance and fear. People fear change, and fear the loss of their profits. and fear things that are unfamiliar. If it is beneficial and furthers progress then there is nothing wrong with that. If you choose to stay at a certain speed, then stay in your lane, but don't be pissed when the kat in the bugatti, zips passed ya. Jmho. Change in the name of progress is human nature.

[fkirons]

Tattooing and Tattoo equipment stalled for quiet a few year and I'm talking a lot of years. It was then that some young dare devils decided to do their own thing and that led to a massive change in such a small amount of time. Anil Gupta, Paul Booth, Mike DeVries, Guy Aitchison, Nikko, Carson Hill and the Neuma, these are some of the people that we owe them for making tattooing what it has become today.

[cagelavey]

i agree gaston, my first experience with rotary machines was the o.g. neotat, but i definitely don't think that rotaries would have gained as much steam if it weren't for guys like Carson Hill and his neuma machine. its all just a continuance of guys like him and the others you mentioned, stigma, and the fly machine, etc. not that the neuma came first but it opened peoples eyes as to what was possible. im amazed and honored be able to see the apex of all that is happening right now

[cagelavey]

That's what I was saying about the razr, etc. Quite a few years before the I phone, blue tooth, cameras,mp3, and phone. The tattoo industry is no different than the car industry or anything else like that. you have Chevy vs Ford, Mercedes vs bmw, Toyota vs Honda,etc. Same type drive systems, with subtle differences that make them stand apart from each other. It's no different with tattoo machines, and supplies, etc. Time will tell what stays and what goes, and it will evolve based on what works and what doesn't, simple as that.

[brandonmull]

Apple was the first computer for home use. The iphone i refer to is the touchscreen and bringing a totally radical device that changed everything. Who on here owns a phone that is not touchscreen???

[cagelavey]

The first touchscreen phone was the IBM Simon, launched in 1992. During this decade the popular iPaq (not made by Apple by the way) was launched with touchscreens and optional phone attachments. HTC, the leader in touchscreen phones up until the iPhone and makers of phones like the Nexus One launched their first touchscreen phone, the HTC Wallaby aka XDA in 2002. like I've been trying to say, Steve Jobs may not have invented the touch screen phone but he took the idea and made it worth something. which is the argument in a nut shell. don't be limited by someone else's vision, if you can make it better, you should be able to do so, just like steve jobs, or FKI, Cheyenne, t-tech, bishop, neotat, etc. evolve or die, its nature, and its our nature, plain and simple.

[brandonmull]

Speaking of derailing, i got ttechs, i have been using them, and i have got to say i think it is a pretty cool
setup!

[fkirons]

The iPhone was unique an many ways and forced everyone to evolve towards their line or disappear.

However Palm Pilots were to me the foundation for the iphone concept.

Funny thing, Palm as a company does not longer exist as it was consumed by modern phones.

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[cagelavey]

all sent from your i phone gaston, lol