hey Jack Steel, why does the thunder motor seem to have so much more power than the motor in my halo? not saying its a better motor or anything like that at all, I know that the maxons are the apex of quality motors for rotaries, and I know they have more than enough torque, etc. it just seems like the thunder is faster for some reason, in fact quite a few people claim it has too much? im just honestly wondering because I don't have the knowledge to support my claim, just talking from the way it feels to me, and you seem like you know whats up. by the way your new machines look awesome bro. any info would be appreciated, thanks