Sweet! Thanks!
https://vimeo.com/115658964
Hope this video help on the give!
hah straight to the point!
Okay so I received mine today with DarkLab tubes, I must say first off as many of you know I have used a fuck ton of machines. I mean a fuck ton. And honestly imo this machine out beats the rest. The quality of this machine just by looking at it out of the box says enough.
I ran mine today with the dark lab disposables and I couldn't expect anything more but brilliance from fkirons.
Lining (keeping it at the 4mm length) lined flawlessly, tight 5 and 8 round. With a small grip adjustment to a shorter length it(with no give) packs it in amazingly.
With just a little of give( which I learned from the give adjustment video ) you literally...turn the fucking knob. Haha. But it layered color and to the black just the same, with ease.
I have absolutely nothing bad to say about this machine besides great work as usual fkirons.
Great video there...
Basically... Turn the Fucking Knob
Got my Spektra Edge X in yesterday and was excited to try it out! Unfortunately it wasn't the end all machine I was hoping for. I tried it on two pieces; a small realistic color piece and a black and gray sleeve I've been working on.
I tried lining with a long taper T-Tech. I started with the stock 3.5 length no give which gave me mediocre results. I then tried it with some give and it worked better so long as I wasn't afraid to sink it in more than I'm used to and also slow my hand speed down. I switched it to the longest stroke length(4.2 I think?) with no give and it lined okay but not as well as I like my spektra direkt at 4.0mm with a conventional setup or a good coil. Maybe it's my carts? I got the long taper liners on the recommendation of a few coworkers about T-Tech carts.
I tried some color blending at the 3.5 stroke length with a T-Tech 11 curved mag. Color blending worked really well and I played around with the give knob, eventually settling on a minimal give setting as I'm used to rotaries with no give. One of the best color blending machines I've come across rivaling my 3.5 neotat
Color packing wasn't too bad either. Not as good as my personal favorite a 3.2mm Direkt but pretty close. Might just have to play around with it a bit more.
Unfortunately I didn't get to experiment fully with Black and Gray much. I didn't want to butcher up my client so after I tried out the Edge X for a few minutes and couldn't find a good setting I had my conventional setup on standby. I'm really picky with my Black and Gray machines so finding out the ideal setup for black and gray, might take me a while which means I'll probably have to butcher my roommates thigh for an evening. If anybody has any help with what they like to use with the edge X it'd be appreciated(Stroke length, give options, bugpin or regular carts, T-Tech or Cheyenne)!
I was hoping when I ordered the Edge X you could change the stroke length on the fly. You can't in practical usage. While it's very easy compared to most machines to adjust stroke, you have to line it up so that the screw is facing the top and then unscrew it and pivot it in the direction you want for shorter or longer. Which means if you wanted to change the stroke length mid tattoo you'd have to line up the cams, bust out the hex wrench and unbag your machine.
I really wanted the Edge X to be the one but I think I'm going to have to set up a separate liner still. Which really sucks because it's sooo convenient to just slip your clip cord cover over the whole machine and RPG grip, wrap some sensi tape around the RPG grip part and just punch a small whole in the plastic for where the cartridges go in.
Last edited by gerardcon; 01-09-2015 at 11:41 AM.
If you need some pointers feel free to ask. I think it's a bit too soon to judge it since you just got it and the machine def runs different than the halo, for example, due to the mechanisms that propels it.
You mentioned that you tried it on two small pieces, so allow yourself a few more tattoos to really see it shine.
I recommend to anyone getting this machine starting up with the set stroke and try it in several tattoos before machine adjustments. As we consider that the factory setting will suit most artists. Or at least try it good before altering it.
Also consider that Ttech and Cheyennes needles behave different as they both have different spring compression so the give may have to be adjusted according.
Regarding lining, you may see better results by adding a bit of give to it (at least that's how I line with ease)
Should you have any questions feel free to contact us.
Oh and regarding the adjustable stroke on the fly... Well ...you just give me work to do for the Edge V2
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Don't get me wrong I think it's a top notch machine. Re-reading my post I think I came across as too critical when I really was just trying to share my experiences and see if anybody has any constructive criticisms regarding my technique. If you want me to take down my post I will as I didn't want it to seem like a review more as a comparison to machines I use. Sorry I'm just a VERY particular person. Reading Ray's post I'm going to try it again with a higher voltage. I think I was running mine at around 8.7 Always afraid on new machines of running it too high.
I think you were referring to me not guatum? I started off using coils but since literally everyone in my shop uses rotaries I practically learned on rotaries. I'd say 90% of my tattooing is done with rotaries.
Last edited by gerardcon; 01-10-2015 at 02:30 AM.
give it some time, this machine has been the best I've used yet and honestly die say keep using it, how familiar are you exactly with rotaries anyway guatum? i only ask because your profile says you've been tattooing since last year.
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