i have try the amen and for me its very unfinish - its lines not better as a swashdrive or any dan kubin. With carts i hat some issue to get it running - last i have carts running with 10w motor but here the cam is solve inside the modul and i have to replace always all parts . 3 -5 times in a session ! This machine is very loud , vibrationg more as some coils in my hand ( for lining is running at 9.5v ) and the lines have bad healing. I have sold my amen quick