thats the thing...im liking the centri...but ive heard it all before...when i bought the hyper,bizarre the gen 6 ,gen 7,the neuma,the hawk,neo tat and god knows how many others..it will never make you a better tattooer...and i still think you are way over the price of a machine that hasnt proved itself long term...look at the new swashdrive whip compare the prices....they are established with a good track record but they are well under youre price and we all know their back up service is great...i wish you the best...but cant see many changing to be honest.