Lace Nano

[fkirons]

It seems that these people have been sending misleading info about their own product. My prior comment was referred to repelling magnetic mechanism and yes repelling mechanism is used in many applications. But After looking at both machines Clark and the Lace Nano I do see how John Clark could get pissed. The whole arm concept is almost identical and we are talking about a whole mechanism and parts! They just housed it differently.

I am even more pissed off after knowing that they used my prior comment without my consent to advertise their product on their site and back up the beef they have with Clark. If they have the ability to come here on this forum and pick up quotes form members to post on their site they should have the kindness to post regarding the many question people have.

Completely out of whack attitude.




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[Wonderland]

It seems that these people have been sending misleading info about their own product. My prior comment was referred to repelling magnetic mechanism and yes repelling mechanism is used in many applications. But After looking at both machines Clark and the Lace Nano I do see how John Clark could get pissed. The whole arm concept is almost identical and we are talking about a whole mechanism and parts! They just housed it differently.

I am even more pissed off after knowing that they used my prior comment without my consent to advertise their product on their site and back up the beef they have with Clark. If they have the habilitation to come here on this forum and pick up quotes form members to post on their site they should have the kindness to post regarding the many question people have.

Completely out of whack attitude.




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i as well was quoted by them as well. I did contact them and let them know that I was pissed that I was quoted with out asking me if they could. Sadly this is playing out in a very childish way. I was also contacted by the lead designer and asked if I could post on his behalf to the forum because he said he was blocked from here. But I can not do that for him no more the I would post for John either. I really can only take a neutral and more grown up position with this whole aspect of the design of the machine and who did what to who aspect of this circumstance.

Like many "system type" tattoo machine and power supply set ups. This machine will more then likely go the way of others full system setups like air powered and pulse magnetic machines in the past.

Johns machine ins has the advantage of being able to be brought in alongside our existing equipment to compliment what we already have in our arsenal of machines and will work with our already purchased power supplies.

the other machine will require an investment that does not easily integrate with existing setups, and there fore will be a monetary hurdle for some if not most.

But the the truely sad part is this has turned into a fight over boys and their toys. Sooner or later we will get ripped off by some one some where. And the only way to fight that is to build the best product and to do it with integrity. This fighting and name calling and creating spoof Facebook pages only makes us as tattoo artists look like children fighting over a toy, and it's really sad. I have been following this to pick quite closely and it has become down right sad that grown men are acting like this, I have much respect for all of you, both artists and builders alike. We will make this business of tattooing what we want it to be, but to continue acting like only "we" in the business have the right to do something is just silly, and that outsiders have no business in our business is paramount to telling every supplier to go and fuck off, I'm sure most suppliers don't have a full staff that are artists as well. That would be silly to expect it.

Im not defending "the nano" or am I taking Johns side in this matter, as they are grown men and its their issues to work out. Let them work it out and let's all be done with it. Because I can point out many similarities between many different machines made by numerous builders throughout machine building history. Does that make all machines rip offs? I would say maybe so. Repackaged and shipped to our doors and we gladly use them.