Surely someone on here pre-ordered the Lacenano machine

[Butternuts]

The stroke I have it adjusted to in the video is what I like to line at. I'm not sure exactly what it is (I haven't measured it) but as long as the needle bar has the correct amount of tension on it, it is quite and vibration is minimal throughout the stroke range. As mentioned, mounting the rubber band as far down on the needle bar as you can makes a huge difference.

[Butternuts]

Update on the Lace machine. After solely running this machine for the past few weeks all of it's annoying quirks started to come through. If (and that's a big if) you can get the right amount of tension on the needle (b/c someone thought it'd be a good idea to only be able to secure the needle up at the top, you know, as far away from the tip as possible) it'll run great until your rubber band moves, wind blows, etc then you get annoying needle rattle, vibration, the machines runs inconsistent, etc. The vice is ok, not great. I really wanted to like this thing and gave it a real honest effort but once the "new machine feel" wore off (kind of like the honeymoon period of a new girlfriend haha) I became more and more unimpressed with it. The fact it can be autoclaved is nice, I really like that but not really a necessity if you bag and clean your machine and being able to adjust stroke and give on the fly is nice too but the needle tension issue just got way too annoying for me to deal with. This machine needs quite a bit of refining in my opinion. I'll be going back to my Gen 8's. Hopefully someone perfects this magnetic drive concept soon b/c being able to change stroke and hit on the fly without stopping or putting anything down or tools is pretty awesome. A for effort but these guys got some bugs to work out of this thing if they're going to compete with other machine builders. In my opinion, fuck the brushless motor, get a good motor so you don't need a special power supply or cord, a good quality needle bar tensioner to get the perfect amount of tension every time without fucking with rubber bands so machine runs smooth and consistent and be able to adjust stroke and hit easily on the fly with no tools through a bag, 3-4 ounce machine weight. There is definitely potential in magnetic drive rotaries. Maybe Clark perfected it with his new machine he posted?? I'd be curious to see a video of it running.

[Cyberitual]

Yea those little things are what tattoo artist will find, specially on a machine that was built by college kids and not industry specialist... I posted a pic of all the issue this design had before it hit the market and that the vice was to close to the a bar and it would leave little room for the tension to be in a lower position to apply tension. The brushless motor is all this machine has to offer but they still could of did more research to power it. They went with the first most easiest way to power that motor instead of finding a way to make it universal for all artist to plug n play. It can be done and has been available for sometime now. Why the college kids and there financial backers didnt realise this is good question.John is a genius I must say and lace will be ditching the power supply soon. They just need to wait and see what John does.

[Butternuts]

Like I mentioned when I started this review. I bought the machine purely out of curiosity and to see for myself what all the hype was about and if I didn't like it I would post and let everyone know why. It paid for itself with the tattoos I've done with it so I don't feel like I'm out anything but I won't be using it anymore, it's literally that annoying to work with. I do love the versatility of the magnetic drive, a lot. Does Johns new machine require tools to adjust the stroke and hit?? The weight on his seems like it'd be nice and comfortable. I know we got off on the wrong foot Cyberitual with this review but I honestly just wanted to let people know if this machine was any good or not and after spending several weeks and hours with it (I tattoo 6 days a week, 8 hour days and Mon and Wed are 12-14 hour days) I wouldn't recommend this machine to anybody. I was impressed at first with the newness of it and the features but after that wears off you're left with an inconsistent machine that you can't get the needle to quit rattling around. I literally tried everything, every size rubber band, different ways to mount them. Some methods worked good for a little bit but the rattle always came back or the tension messed up the consistency of the machine. Lesson learned from buying a machine from non tattooers. Tattooing everyday a lot of things become second nature that you don't think about or think would be common sense like the needle tension issue on this machine but I guess to someone who doesn't have any tattoo experience they don't know the importance of little details like that that will make a HUGE difference. All in all I ended up doing John a big favor. I bought the Lacenano, spent plenty of time with it, tried extremely hard to like it and get it to perform consistently and the final verdict for anyone looking to buy one, IT FUCKING SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Butternuts]

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End of review.

[thesmokingmirror]

I think this review has been really informative it really does validate the superiority of the Clark machine

[Butternuts]

I think this review has been really informative it really does validate the superiority of the Clark machine

That's all i meant for it to be was informative. I've never tried one of Clark's magnetic rotaries, the weight and needle stopping outside the tube was a turn off for me, but would be curious to try one of the new ones he posted once they're out. Honestly though, the Stealth is a superior machine to the Lacenano so it's not going to take a whole lot on his end to trump the Lace. I've never ever got so irritated with a machine before that I tossed it in the trash. I'm not even interested in selling to anyone b/c no matter how little I sold it for I feel I'd be ripping them off, it's that annoying to work with. I don't know who their test artists were that have been testing this for over a year or whatever but it took me 3-4 weeks to debunk this thing and that was really, honestly trying to give it a chance. I'm glad you found the review informative, that's all I meant for it to be. All the hype was just that...hype funded by deep pockets. They failed at the most important part, delivering a solid machine to the public.