So far the vice works great. Haven't had any issues with the tube moving. The quality is definitely there, everything is smooth and feels pretty solid from what I can tell. It fires up after being ran through an autoclave...my Swashdrives won't do that lol. You're absolutely right David, everyone on here that uses T-Tech cartridges or any other Cheyenne tattoo cartridge rip off should be ashamed of themselves and are butt pirates settling for scraps from the true innovators...or something along those lines.