Helios Rotary Pen

[slicksteel]

you might be right on that asa,i could have sworn he liked to use short stroke on his setups.. but as it goes fuck these machines after all! As we both now know that they are just re branded cosmetic machines that have been around for 3 years allready...

[Ofeloner]

Yeah,,I was gonna say,,someone pointed out that it's the same exact rebranded machine they sell on ebay,,

[otto]

Hi Slick,i used the 2.3 mm stroke machines a few years ago but i think that a 3.5/4 mm makes the job easier for packing/lining.I loved the short stroke too,no vibrations,less noise,less stress on the motor