Anyone tried EZ pen?

[Leroy]

not for nuthin' but I didn't think this forum was big on supporting knock off machines. This EZ pen may work great, but for all intents and purposes, it is still a blatant copy of the hawk pen. I'm sure that there was a decent amount of coin spent on Cheyenne's part developing this machine and bringing it to market. I think it's unfair for a Chinese company to simply copy it exactly and put their own brand on it. There are other pen style machines around, so if the price of admission for Cheyenne is too high, there are alternatives that are made by people that actually give a damn about tattooing.

It could be said that Cheyenne's machine is also a very close copy of other similar machines, Stylus, to be specific. All of them similar to cosmetic machines that have been around for years. Now I'm not ok with much of the aesthetic being stolen but if it's a good machine and works well I'd say it's a fantastic way to help the market get converted over to cartridge setups.

[Jack Steel]

It could be said that Cheyenne's machine is also a very close copy of other similar machines, Stylus, to be specific. All of them similar to cosmetic machines that have been around for years. Now I'm not ok with much of the aesthetic being stolen but if it's a good machine and works well I'd say it's a fantastic way to help the market get converted over to cartridge setups.

A pen shape is a pen shape ...

the stylus's motor is verticaly place in the grip
the cheyenne is horizontal

[sleezy23]

just be careful not to tear their flimsy cords. had to e mail them to order extra cords and grips. came with one grip and 2 cords

[asA]

To be fair the cheyenne pen is a knock off of the nedz machine... same drive mechanics. If you wanna split hairs.

[artoftatt2]

And on top of that all the tubes and needles you use are made in China and up priced by the so called companies that support tattooers to make their pockets fatter of yours


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[hellraiser6662]

When a company like cheyenne get ripped off. Who cares? They have done nothing but take and put nothing back. They isn't fkiron now are they a company which contains tattooists and help anybody with great customer service. Cheyenne have tried and failed at cornering the tattoo market with the carts making videos that lied and had their top sponsored artists giving the bullshit, thinking we all believe what they say... haha taking companies to court but it hasn't worked, now more and more companies are making carts with there needles which is a good thing for us & to be honest a good thing for them as some people will most probably buy a cheyenne machine now as it's now cheaper to run than buying there over priced crap carts.

[brandonmull]

Has far as any originality goes I think the only true innovator I have seen is mike and the centris.

[Panos tattoo]

Has far as any originality goes I think the only true innovator I have seen is mike and the centris.

^^^^^agree with you and i want to add swashdrive.^^^^
i dont really care though if someone makes a similar shape or concept and sells it as a different brand.if someone feels like and can do it its cool.if he wants to upgrade it its even better.if he invents something new he stays in history as an innovator.so everyone wins here.if he wants to be the only one that produces that conncept and charge as much as he feels he can patent it and pay his annual fee in order to protect him.mind you that the amound is big because he has to do declare it in a lot of countries.if he pays patent for the USA nothing stops a european company for using it.so we are talking for a lot of fees here that excuse the overcharging price of the item.

[Patrick]

Well, EZ is also selling a direct copy of the vivace on their website. It even says Neotat on the side. Ray Webb has been nothing but good to the industry as far as I'm concerned. Not trying to stir shit. Just thought it should be mentioned.

[asA]

Well, EZ is also selling a direct copy of the vivace on their website. It even says Neotat on the side. Ray Webb has been nothing but good to the industry as far as I'm concerned. Not trying to stir shit. Just thought it should be mentioned.

Yeah, just saw the neo tat rip... they just added those this week. Pretty lame. Ray at neotat has been copied so much it's a real bummer.