And no panos I use whatever I like I use Cheyenne I use ttech I use whatever is doing the job well for me . the comment was reffering to people acting like I am some piece of shit because I purchased a couple knock off machines in the past even after spending thousands of dollars and supporting the real companies for years before and after. I just think its ridiculous one page I am demonized for buying a knock off AFTER buying the real version . and on another post everyone is like ya this knock off rules buy one u won't regret it !!!