Please explain "give" to me

**Tommy** · 07-26-2011, 09:10 PM

My dragonflies, and many other rotaries, have an adjustable "give".

1. Im sort of not sure about the physics of this. How does a compressed spring produce give on the downstroke?

2. Is it even actually desirable? Is it really a feature, or a nuisance?

**slicksteel** · 07-26-2011, 09:24 PM

To me it hurts a lot less when you have some type of give-I did a large post on here a long time ago, all about give it-skin pressure etc

**Tommy** · 07-26-2011, 10:19 PM

im gonna go out on a limb here and say every rotary ive used with "give" based on a coiled spring eventually becomes a loud, chattery mess.

**slicksteel** · 07-26-2011, 10:25 PM

try the rapiers,they dont i think the problem is the ones were you can change the give will all have problems.How is that m.metaxa rotary i was thinking of getting one.

**Tommy** · 07-26-2011, 10:29 PM

it happened to the rapiers. it happened to the dragonflies.

**slicksteel** · 07-26-2011, 10:30 PM

Have your rapiers done that yet (you do use them alot ,right?, I think the problem is the ones were you can change the give, will all have problems.How is that m.metaxa rotary I was thinking of getting one.

**Tommy** · 07-26-2011, 10:52 PM

yeah... i think its inherent to anything with a coiled spring in it. that spring is not going to stay springy under those conditions... how could it?

maybe they should start packaging them with spare springs. I think that might be a wear-point that just has to get replaced every so often.

**slicksteel** · 07-26-2011, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by Tommy

yeah... i think its inherent to anything with a coiled spring in it. that spring is not going to stay springy under those conditions... how could it?

maybe they should start packaging them with spare springs. I think that might be a wear-point that just has to get replaced every so often.

tru it well only hold the same tension for so long before it gets mushy-I think that is why the pirate is allso making those new flat spring hybrids so the end user can service them and change the way it runs pretty easy.