Chinese Hawk Copy !

[turnrock]

looks like they took the hawk off, i cant find it on there

[elbo]

if we all reported the china etc sellers on ebay it would stop-i have reported like 10 at least. I dont have a problem buy china machines if they are original from them(own to 2 like that) buy they rip off the whole world-toys etc!

We should do that for sure....only recently a few of us got together and got a tattoo school taken off of ebay....i find ebay take more notice of a few reporting rather than just one!

[slicksteel]

Yea that is tru if more people report then start thinking about how it might actually make them lose money. may be we could start a section on here were we list a bad seller and get others to report to.

[Inkslinger]

The machine is on there.
But as said before, How do we know the so-called legit companies aren't getting stuff made in china and putting their "brand" on it?
This web-site offers the ability to do so...check needle section. They will put your name and company logo on the box.
I know for a fact that one of the companies ALOT of artists deal with have their needles made in China.
Now I DO NOT agree with copying products. But that being said it's hard to compete with a lot of this.
I live in central Pa. and there are 4 shops within 25 miles of each other. One shop guarantees to beat anyones prices etc. I know for a fact they have the 25.00 machines, chinese needles and ink etc. How is a shop to combat that when here at my shop we try and buy all american and the best equipment out there. Same goes for scratchers, they buy off freakin e-bay cheap as all h**l and do tats for next to nothing. sad part is when so-called customers come in and show it to you and say I only paid 10.00 for this and your shop min. is 45.00 haha. then you look at it, see all the bs going on on the tat and they think its a great tat.
Sorry for the rant.
Russ

[slicksteel]

mithra needles! china made.

[Mr.Taboo]

The machine is on there.
But as said before, How do we know the so-called legit companies aren't getting stuff made in china and putting their "brand" on it?
This web-site offers the ability to do so...check needle section. They will put your name and company logo on the box.
I know for a fact that one of the companies ALOT of artists deal with have their needles made in China.
Now I DO NOT agree with copying products. But that being said it's hard to compete with a lot of this.
I live in central Pa. and there are 4 shops within 25 miles of each other. One shop guarantees to beat anyones prices etc. I know for a fact they have the 25.00 machines, chinese needles and ink etc. How is a shop to combat that when here at my shop we try and buy all american and the best equipment out there. Same goes for scratchers, they buy off freakin e-bay cheap as all h**l and do tats for next to nothing. sad part is when so-called customers come in and show it to you and say I only paid 10.00 for this and your shop min. is 45.00 haha. then you look at it, see all the bs going on on the tat and they think its a great tat.
Sorry for the rant.
Russ

Yeah I feel a lot of what you're sayin' in my area a little over 5 square miles we went from having 3 shops to having 7 in less than a year , same crap too "beat any price" and all that shit.

[crowman]

Here is a nightmare....i was the 4th tattooist in the whole town and surrounding area to open shop ....since this local council seems to be giving tattoo licences out to anyone with an ebay account there is now 18....all shop owning scratchers without a good piece of work between them.....i put up a bit of info on my web site to educate the unwarey....and most of their clients dont seem to mind the terrible work.

[Mr.Taboo]

Yeah I've gone to some of the other shops FB accounts and there are pics of stuff that looks like the "before" shots of stuff I've covered . And they have people saying how great it looks and how they'll be in there soon. Mind boggling.

[wildboy]

Almost every pre fab needle is manufactered in China no matter which supplier... Its impossible to get them soldered packed sterilized in Europe, Canada whereever besides China for such a cheap price. Some suppliers tell(!) that they send their own needles to China and get them made and send back from there. I think most of em just get their own logo and company name on the needles. Some productions are better than others but its all from China.

[KONON]

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