Vivace

**Tattooalley** · 09-25-2011, 08:35 PM

I have the 2.5mm and love it but was told that the 4.2 would be better for solid black and color packing.. Any truth to this or just a preference?

**Tat2dPinoy** · 09-25-2011, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by Tattooalley

I have the 2.5mm and love it but was told that the 4.2 would be better for solid black and color packing.. Any truth to this or just a preference?

Absolutely true! I love the 2.5mm for black and gray and small liners, and 4.2mm for color packing and solid black

**Tattooalley** · 09-26-2011, 01:48 AM

And why is the longer stroke rotary better for solid color?

**Tat2dPinoy** · 09-26-2011, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by Tattooalley

And why is the longer stroke rotary better for solid color?

It's more efficient with fewer passes to saturate, therefore quicker heal times. More bleeding, but it stops fast. I hang a good amount of needle from the tip, combined with the longer travel of the needle, makes it effortless

**Bishopbyname** · 09-26-2011, 12:07 PM

I've got the 3.5 stroke so it's a good allrounder. Not really sure if that's good or bad as i don't think it excels at anything, meaning i have better shaders, better liners and better colour packers.

**Tattooalley** · 09-26-2011, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by Tat2dPinoy

It's more efficient with fewer passes to saturate, therefore quicker heal times. More bleeding, but it stops fast. I hang a good amount of needle from the tip, combined with the longer travel of the needle, makes it effortless

Thank you for the info.

**WhiteTrashMatt** · 09-27-2011, 12:42 PM

got my new springs in today for my vivace...runs great now fully loaded....even runs the t-tech set up at around 9.5volts...Thanks again Ray, GREAT customer service as always!.

**Tattooalley** · 10-01-2011, 07:56 PM

Ok this is going to sound f****ed up but I get better results in reverse of what everyone else is saying. I pack solid color fast with the short stroke and B&G with the long stroke.... I don't know why but with the long stroke I don't get the saturation...Any ideas

**slicksteel** · 10-01-2011, 08:22 PM

ahh prob you are doing a scrubing motion with a heavier(most likely rideing the tip on the skin which makes it taught ) hand motion with the shortstroke so you are building up solid layers fast(al carlton and others)and you are actually prob floating the needle more with the long stroke -your hand is making the give motion on its on and you are using a lighter touch as unconsciously you are thinging light touch means lighet values