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    bishop vs neotat vivace

    It seems like they both run in similar style... Same rail with the small spring to soften the hit. Anyone explain further what differences these two machines have other than a different style frame? Is the stroke much different etc?

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    Well, I run both. The noe-tat comes with different stroke options. I think some of the difference is in the things we can't see such as motors and etc.
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    Do you prefer one ove rhe other? Advantages vs disadvantages? Really curious. I have a bishop but considering neotat as well

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    The Neo is slightly heavier , if you like the Bishop I'd recommend checkin' out a Neo. Worse thing that can happen is you don't like it and put it on the classifieds on here someone will snap it up.
    Oh and I think the spring is to act as a return so the needle will stop in the up position not as a damper.
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    the spring doesn't soften the hit just causes the it to stay back when power isn't on. I do think the double bearing causes a slight rolling effect which gives it a tiny amount of give but has nothing to do with a spring.

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    What are you guys running these at? I have one and run it at 10v and it's great for b&g with smooth transitions but I'm not getting the saturation I want with solid like I do with RW

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    Try a little less voltage ( 9.0 or 9.5 ) little more needle maybe and slow down a bit.
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    I run mine ay 8.5 to 9.0 for color saturation. I love both machines. BUT I like the fact I can get different stroke lengths with the neo and the people at neo are AMAZING to work with and speak to.
    BUT I haven't had any issues with either machine.
    But like it was said, if you like the bishop I suggest trying a neo (maybe Med. stroke) and try it. If ya don't like it let ME know and I'll trade ya or buy it outright from ya.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vsprotoss View Post
    It seems like they both run in similar style... Same rail with the small spring to soften the hit. Anyone explain further what differences these two machines have other than a different style frame? Is the stroke much different etc?
    both of the builder are on the site..maybe they will chime in on the difference but I do own both and use them every day as far as the spring ,isn't to soften the hit.. it is to help with a quicker return and help with the life of the motor.they do have different stroke length as well
    VAGABOND JAY

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    i have two bishops I definetly have no problem getting good saturation with them, but I dont use long tapered needles with them

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