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    Senior Member bmerck11's Avatar
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    my bishop puts solid color in like nothing else, and super smooth layering shading to. I know there have been machines sent out with motors that run on diff volts. 9.5 on the original for color but there were some that ran slower might be as much as 12 volts to get the same revs. if in doubt you should message franco.

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    the new vivace runs so smooth!! and i have no prob getting great saturation.

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    One of the comments on this thread says both builders are on this site.
    It'd be great to have them explain the differences in their machines.
    I know Franco Vescovi builds the Bishop, but I don't know about the Vivace. I'll see if I can find and message Franco to see if he wants to chime in. Anyone else care to do the same for the Vivace builder?

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    Fuck me this is an old thread to resurrect? Ray who builds Vivace/Neotat is an engineer who saw a way to improve on rotary tattoo machines. I don't know a great deal about him but his machines both old and new are highly talked about and used by some of the best artists in the business.

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    I saw a picture of Steve Moore tattooing with a neotat.

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    I use them both, daily. I tend to line and color with my Neo Tats, and do any BG shading with the Bishop. I'm pretty confident that if I only had one or the other, I could still get anything done. Very very similar, and both great machines.
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    try the shagbuild - and you get the best of both worlds

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkness View Post
    try the shagbuild - and you get the best of both worlds
    d20 is a fantastic machine
    Sidewinders, MC2, Mc 14, MC13, Halo, Lollis, Specific, Diablo. Tried many more

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    Ive owned both, prefer neotats, in 4.2 stroke. And actually prefer the older motors. hit a little bit harder. Seems like the "magic motors" are a little less punchy. Had a bishop a couple yrs ago and it had the slightest bit of give to it. Both are excellent machines, very similar. Again I prefer neotats. I believe they also originated the design; I remember their ads in magazines years and years ago w the older body style. I used to think"what an ugly f**kin machine". I have learned to not write anything off until Ive tried it.

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    Just got a bishop dated 2014, wondering if I should remove the spring if I intend to use it for cartridges?

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