Not digging the whip.

[Tcoe13]

I have used it once and really like it, I have actually been thinking about trying it again. I take forever to set up. It would be nice to set up so quickly! I just remember the magnums being caught up on the tip guides, Hopefully they have fixed this.

i haven't had that issue and i've been using the hell out of it, seems like that issue may have been resolved. i know the hawk people don't like this but I can tell you that the t-tech needle cartridges are pretty nice compared to the "cheyenne" brand. in some instances they're even better. For the price, the quality difference isn't really obvious at least not where it counts, needles have all looked precise and worked beautifully.
For what it's worth I highly recommend it. It really does cut down on set up time and it's so sweet to be able to have so many "machines" set up (via cartridges) without all the bulk and mess of multiple machines. feel like the cartridge system is the wave of the future, man it's sweet.
Ok, now i'm sounding like a salesman, i'm going to shut it now.

[Zapp]

i haven't had that issue and i've been using the hell out of it, seems like that issue may have been resolved. i know the hawk people don't like this but I can tell you that the t-tech needle cartridges are pretty nice compared to the "cheyenne" brand. in some instances they're even better. For the price, the quality difference isn't really obvious at least not where it counts, needles have all looked precise and worked beautifully.
For what it's worth I highly recommend it. It really does cut down on set up time and it's so sweet to be able to have so many "machines" set up (via cartridges) without all the bulk and mess of multiple machines. feel like the cartridge system is the wave of the future, man it's sweet.
Ok, now i'm sounding like a salesman, i'm going to shut it now.

Exactly,since i switch to t-tech system i use almost only my Rotary Works ali machine !
It looks like my other machines will collect dust :-(

[Tcoe13]

Exactly,since i switch to t-tech system i use almost only my Rotary Works ali machine !It looks like my other machines will collect dust :-(

Amen to that brother! Man I love t-tech.

[DiamondDave]

I have used Neos and Stealth with TTech.No real difference to the Hawk/Spirit.The Hawk is very light of course, so weight/balance issues are more of a factor.I prefer using the heavy ttech grips with red rat covers as it puts a nice weight right in your hand and against the skin.I find the hawk too light.As Limey says, you need to add a volt or two to compensate for the extra resistance of the ttech cartridges.The ttech imho is best with Direct Drives or hard hitters with no give (or very little).Given the Bishop is similar to the Neos, i would bet that it would be a great combo.

[JCarlton]

Thanks guys, I think I will give it a shot. Why would there be more resistance with the ttech vs the hawk? same drive system isn't it? a plunger simply pushes the cartrage spring shaft.

[Administrator]

Thanks guys, I think I will give it a shot. Why would there be more resistance with the ttech vs the hawk? same drive system isn't it? a plunger simply pushes the cartrage spring shaft.

http://unimaxsupply.com/tatmch/1hawkwarning.htm

Only posting this link because it shows the two systems dissected. This is in no way a dis to ttech or its users.

[DiamondDave]

Thanks guys, I think I will give it a shot. Why would there be more resistance with the ttech vs the hawk? same drive system isn't it? a plunger simply pushes the cartrage spring shaft.

if using ttech (or hawk cartridges) you will need more volts compared to running a standard needle.For example 9rl needle on a LS Neo i use around 9.5 volts.Ttech 9rl cartridge on LS Neo i use 11 volts.I have found that the hawk cartridges are "stiffer" and therefore need maybe an extra quarter volt compared to the ttech.I have also found that ttech liners are aligned better ( no side to side movement)How much of an issue is the non sealed ttechs?If you autoclave your grips/needle bars what is the problem.Ttech cartridges are sterilized.Cheyenne should stop scare mongering and reduce the prices of their cartridges.