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    I have used Neos and Stealth with TTech.No real difference to the Hawk/Spirit.The Hawk is very light of course, so weight/balance issues are more of a factor.I prefer using the heavy ttech grips with red rat covers as it puts a nice weight right in your hand and against the skin.I find the hawk too light.As Limey says, you need to add a volt or two to compensate for the extra resistance of the ttech cartridges.The ttech imho is best with Direct Drives or hard hitters with no give (or very little).Given the Bishop is similar to the Neos, i would bet that it would be a great combo.

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    Thanks guys, I think I will give it a shot. Why would there be more resistance with the ttech vs the hawk? same drive system isn't it? a plunger simply pushes the cartrage spring shaft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCarlton View Post
    Thanks guys, I think I will give it a shot. Why would there be more resistance with the ttech vs the hawk? same drive system isn't it? a plunger simply pushes the cartrage spring shaft.
    http://unimaxsupply.com/tatmch/1hawkwarning.htm

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    nly posting this link because it shows the two systems dissected. This is in no way a dis to ttech or its users.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCarlton View Post
    Thanks guys, I think I will give it a shot. Why would there be more resistance with the ttech vs the hawk? same drive system isn't it? a plunger simply pushes the cartrage spring shaft.
    if using ttech (or hawk cartridges) you will need more volts compared to running a standard needle.For example 9rl needle on a LS Neo i use around 9.5 volts.Ttech 9rl cartridge on LS Neo i use 11 volts.I have found that the hawk cartridges are "stiffer" and therefore need maybe an extra quarter volt compared to the ttech.I have also found that ttech liners are aligned better ( no side to side movement)How much of an issue is the non sealed ttechs?If you autoclave your grips/needle bars what is the problem.Ttech cartridges are sterilized.Cheyenne should stop scare mongering and reduce the prices of their cartridges.

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