Not digging the whip.

[GuruJeph]

http://www.*******************/goods.php?id=446 they got cartridges 50 for about $30 lol wonder if they got the membrane can't imagine 1/5 of the price of the hawk being quality.

[Administrator]

http://www.*******************/goods.php?id=446 they got cartridges 50 for about $30 lol wonder if they got the membrane can't imagine 1/5 of the price of the hawk being quality.

That company went as far as knocking off Eikon's website not just many of their products. Would be cautious of ordering those tips as they could be a big failure. The T-Tech can be argued that its a knock off of the Hawk system but it has at least proven its self. Loads of happy T-tech users on here.

Yeah I am not concerned about the Hawk (Membrane) I would rather buy an actual grip I can autoclave. Thanks for the info Dave.

T-Tech sells a complete system with a few diameters of steel grip and tail. I know a few artists personally that have switched to using steel T-Tech grips and still "soak-scrub-sonic-clave" the grip and tail. They all seem happy with it cutting the "soak-scrub-sonic-clave" time considerably.

if using ttech (or hawk cartridges) you will need more volts compared to running a standard needle.For example 9rl needle on a LS Neo i use around 9.5 volts.Ttech 9rl cartridge on LS Neo i use 11 volts.I have found that the hawk cartridges are "stiffer" and therefore need maybe an extra quarter volt compared to the ttech.I have also found that ttech liners are aligned better ( no side to side movement)How much of an issue is the non sealed ttechs?If you autoclave your grips/needle bars what is the problem.Ttech cartridges are sterilized.Cheyenne should stop scare mongering and reduce the prices of their cartridges.

On a side note there where reports of people having trouble with linear machines with the T-Tech system and needing to up the volts some to accommodate the added resistance of the rubber band in the ttech. The solution appears to have been addressed by Both NeoTat and Bishop, swapping for a softer spring (the little return spring under the glide) and also making sure your glide has been maintained and correctly lubricated. This may not be an issue for the whip but it may also mean you want to use a harder setting on the clips to accommodate.

[GuruJeph]

[QUOTE=Administrator;16793]That company went as far as knocking off Eikon's website not just many of their products. Would be cautious of ordering those tips as they could be a big failure. The T-Tech can be argued that its a knock off of the Hawk system but it has at least proven its self. Loads of happy T-tech users on here.



Fatcashdaddy got his Chinese hawk in and has pic of the Chinese needles for it. says they look top notch. hmmm
http://www.rotarytattoo.com/showthre...-hawk-in-today