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    Quote Originally Posted by fkirons View Post
    but I think I'll make those groves wider and more spaced out.
    That is an easy change.
    That would be great !!!!

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    Whats the main difference between this machine and a Vivace besides the needle bar tensioner instead of a needle clip? Almost every machine looks similar to an already existing model... How many different colors will be available?

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    The slider looks very long(but maybe cos the machine is small)....or is there a advantage with a long slider?...looks great FK...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildboy View Post
    Whats the main difference between this machine and a Vivace besides the needle bar tensioner instead of a needle clip? Almost every machine looks similar to an already existing model... How many different colors will be available?
    Perhaps the similitude is the way the motor is placed. Clearances have to be almost the same on every machine to suit standard needles and tubes.
    I think the difference between machines with no give and give is just that. This machine weights exactly 3.1oz I don;t know how much the Vivace weights.
    I think a little bit of weight is a plus to give you more control and penetration.
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    That is because the machine has a fair size piston that gives you better response of the give effect. The give travel is exactly like the stroke 3.5 when the spring is fully relaxed. In a coil machine the give is about that with an 20 or 18 G back spring tuned with a 2.5-3.5 mm stroke at 46-50 DC. I tried to mimic the response of my coils and pour it into this rotary.
    And to answer to some questions that were asked via PM. This machine will not replace my coils nor is intended to be better or worse. Just another tool. I am actually designing a couple of new coil machines as well as a new coil system. Basically what we learned from this rotary will transition slowly into my coils.
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    Hey gaston it would be cool if you made all your coil machines in a steel version to.



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    It would be also cool to sell the first batch to the Rotary Forum Members !!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fkirons View Post
    You need some grip, with vaseline in your fingers or just moist sometimes can be a pain in the ass.
    but I think I'll make those groves wider and more spaced out.
    That is an easy change.
    Not to sound rude but Zapp and anyone asking about cleaning the thumb screws what does it matter don't you bag your machines to prevent cross contamination? If so then groves won't matter ya know

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    I thought that too UNTIL I was just recently told that at least one state (MD) I think doesn't allow machines to be bagged. The state health dept. claims it creates a more contaminated area. Yea, I don't get it either, but I swear its true.
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    PS..EVERYTHING is bagged in my studios here in Pa.

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