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    Machine Builder I build Tattoo Machines No Iron Machines's Avatar
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    THE MITHRA is a CHINESE company, but based in CALIFORNIA, they produce all the needles in CHINA, like all the needles on the market now, that's all,
    all the ORIGINAL NEEDLES CARTRIDGE from HAWK they are made in CHINA too, the T-TECH alaso, they good quality booth, so maybe the factory produce the COPY HAWK CARTRIDGE show on this post is the same produce the original one, maybe they just use some cheaper needles and plastic frame, but not sure
    IS IMPOSSIBLE PRODUCE NEEDLES OUTSIDE CHINA, IN A WESTERN COUNTRY, THE PRICE GONNA JUMP UP TO MUCH, maybe in the future they gonna produce in some other ASIAN cheaper counbtry like VIETNAM, CAMBODIA or LAOS, but forget NEEDLES MADE IN USA OR EUROPE...

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    Maybe this example will help to understand the rant:
    We are not ranting about Apple computers designed in the usa assembled in china under Apples quality control. We are ranting about Apple knock offs from china with zero quality control, cheap materials and zero knowledge of who Steve Job was.


    Cockroaches !
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    I saw these kits on ebay for $160 and the needles quite possibly cheaper than ************** using "buy it now" Been very curious out it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fkirons View Post
    Maybe this example will help to understand the rant:
    We are not ranting about Apple computers designed in the usa assembled in china under Apples quality control. We are ranting about Apple knock offs from china with zero quality control, cheap materials and zero knowledge of who Steve Job was.


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    Well said! i happen to do a lot of work with a well known Guitar manufaturer from Tennessee, they also produce top end piano's,
    and i had a conversation with thier main piano guy, and he said that the craftsmen (yes craftsmen) there, are some of the finest in the world, but if you do not supervise them, or use your own standards of quality control for a minute they will produce shoddy goods, i guess that means they are Lazy!!
    also they get paid a pittance,so (and i am only guessing) bonus is awarded for quantity, this means more speed more inferior workmanship

    my concern with this, is not the tattoo machine its self, more that i have noticed power n pedals popping up for over £200! real or not?
    I could go on forever grrr! But one thing is for sure it is big organised crime, from memory sticks to automobiles, so i guess it will not go away, but it would be good to recognise the bad
    bring industry back!! that is what i think
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    The day I think I need to buy a Chinese knock-off tattoo machine to save a few dollars is the day I will quit tattooing permanently.
    Needles and machines are not the same, quit pretending they are. Comparing earplugs to Ipods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Hinkle View Post
    The day I think I need to buy a Chinese knock-off tattoo machine to save a few dollars is the day I will quit tattooing permanently.
    Needles and machines are not the same, quit pretending they are. Comparing earplugs to Ipods.
    Bravo!!!!!
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    Everyone uses China to profit, because i'ts cheep! I really admire people who support their local work, but a lot of companies use China companies to produce their products. I know alot of well known builders (that I won't name here), that produce their frames and parts in china, you would be surprised about it! No wonder that they get ripped off! but what can we do? It's cheeper!!! P.S. I'm not supporting knockoff material!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Hinkle View Post
    The day I think I need to buy a Chinese knock-off tattoo machine to save a few dollars is the day I will quit tattooing permanently.
    Needles and machines are not the same, quit pretending they are. Comparing earplugs to Ipods.
    Ipods are made in China...so are the earplugs for that matter.
    Inkslingerstattoo.net....heavily medicated for your protection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Kubin View Post
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    I think they only rip off that space age looking stuff though..so I think I'm safe.

    LOLLL! so true

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inkslingers View Post
    Ipods are made in China...so are the earplugs for that matter.
    But engineered in USA. The iPod is top quality product..now go with some knock off or some product engineered and made in china and you'll see the difference.

    We gave so much power to china that now they are holding us hostage.
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