denner it will be 300$ total for forum members,so the pre-order is to make sure your first in line , first come first serve lol. but your welcome to wait till they are ready. when will they be on your door step? as soon as i can them done and put together, my goal is that they are there way befor x_mas 95% of the machine is done on a lathe so it is straight forward process, the motor and gears have a rubber nosie dampening shield and that is done with molds , so i wanted to stay away from any cnc machine like most machines out there and nothing is wrong with that but it is not what i wanted. nothing is out sourced all the body parts are made in the usa and the motor is japanese, this machine will not make you a better tattooist it will make it easier to tattoo with..,sorry to get off on a ramble..