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    Vivace is lighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Administrator View Post
    Vivace is lighter.
    Even better.

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    My Roy Richardson direct drive is very quiet too.
    Not too bad for a GIRL, eh?

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    I only have a neotat and treasure chest. The Neotat is quieter.

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    I am pretty certain that I am going to try and get a Neo Tat Vivace. I wrote Ray today and asked about shipping to Germany.

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    Out of the three Ive used, (Bishop, Org. Neotat, & my new one off) the Bisho and Neotat are side by side the quietest.

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    Machine Builder I build Tattoo Machines Dan Kubin's Avatar
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    a direct drive is going to be the quietest. there is no friction in the mechanism except in the tube with the needle. they make good liners for 7's and below.
    I prefer them more for 5's and below, but others swear by them for 8's and 9's.
    everybody's hand's are a bit different, and can make or break the performance.

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    Yeah and I am on the fence about rotaries still. I don't have much experience with them. Well nothing recent. I used one a long time ago and there was a slight wobble to it. So I had to make all of lines moving left and right as the wobble would affect the line width. Now I also had never used a diamond tip back then and barely had a clue as to what I was doing. So I am sure my inexperience then had a lot to do with it. Now I have a lot of tattooing experience and want to try again. Last direct drive rotary I have used was in the 90s. Since I have played with a swash some for shadding, and thought it was brilliant but still felt like it was only suited for shadding.

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    Machine Builder I build Tattoo Machines Dan Kubin's Avatar
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    there is deffinately more than an up and down motion that goes in to making a good liner.

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    Yes of course and I can see the benifit to a machine with an armature and spring as the action would be closer to a coil machine. What are the benefits of direct drive? What do your machines have that others don't?

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