The dragonfly replica

[OwlsDen]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Firefly-Ro...ht_1470wt_1149
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Well the copy just went from clone to counterfeit.. Firefly? looks just like a dragonfly... sounds awfully shady..

[punkangel]

LOL! i checked the link, and looked at their other listings, and this is a quote that i just had to copy and paste, check out the highlited section. pmsl.

New Image Tattoo Supplies ( UK )
Lite Dial Red
The Lite Dial is a precision light weight machine, constructed from one solid block of aero aluminium and comes with heavy duty coils and brass components for constant smooth running. Suitable for lining or colour/shading.
New image tattoo supplies is based in Sheffield, England and has been supplying fine quality tattooing equipment for well over 30 years, we do not sell cheap, low qualityChinese machines, you get what you pay for and this does show in your work if you decide to use poor quality machines equipment!

[OwlsDen]

Maybe you should write them and ask where that machine was built.

[robinTS]

i saw a well know and one of the best coil machine builder(Paulo Cruzes) promoting this machine in his facebook,so i think is not a fake motor
so i am very disapointing with Paulo Cruzes,is a good builder he dont need that

[fkirons]

that machine looks cheap. It may look like the dragon fly but the finishes and hardware look low class. The motor must be super shitty.
To have a motor that small to run at least at 3.5 watts the motor must have a Rare Earth Magnet that cost money.
On top of that $150 euros is really expensive for a shitty copy.

I cannot believe how these people are just taking anything they want and making it theirs... Grrrrr

[No Iron Machines]

I AGREE 100% WITH GASTON...

ROBIN TS, 90 % of the machines from PAOLO CRUZES are made in CHINA man, him just done some HAND-MADE frame sometime, that's all, don believe to much on what people say

[robinTS]

I AGREE 100% WITH GASTON...

ROBIN TS, 90 % of the machines from PAOLO CRUZES are made in CHINA man, him just done some HAND-MADE frame sometime, that's all, don believe to much on what people say

i dont think that machines are chineses,but... http://www.facebook.com/#!/media/set...4078526&type=3

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...4078526&type=1

why should i believe in you!

[No Iron Machines]

HELLO

HAND-MADE FRAME : http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=3&theater

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=3&theater

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=3&theater

in this kind of frame, him just done the SIDE hand made, the base with tube vise is chinese, him just retouch little bit

100% CHINESE : http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=3&theater

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=3&theater

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=3&theater

ANY GOOD MACHINES BUILDER CAN SAY THE SAME AS ME MAN, ALSO U EVER TRY RUN A MACHINES FROM PAULO CRUZES?
i message with him some days ago, and i tell him why still done some staff in china for his machines, him start say a lot of strange things about this, him say that people don like china are racist, that everybody copy , him don believe in copiright, i tell him is not about this, is about that him sale his machines like HAND MADE in UK from him but they are full of chinese part, is not correct this, him reply that everybody done JAPANESE TATTOOS have copy from CHINA, becouse don exist dragonb in europe or america , him reply with totally differnt things, i just ask about machines, not about tattoos? him say next year gonna move live in shanghai becouse him love work with chinese, and bla bla bla....

SO, U STILL THINK IS ONE OF THE GREATEST MACHINES BUILDER ON THE WORLD ?

[robinTS]

yes i have custom made liner machine from him https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater
al the links you have from facebook are not avaible,i cant open them,

but the machines i e saw at paulo facebook dont look chineses ,they are so beatifull and never saw copy of that machines on ebay,but,i dont know maybe you are right.
PS:nor hard feellings i hope you not angry with me

[No Iron Machines]

HELLO

im not angry man, he...he.... im sorry, but i don understand some of this kind of builders
yes him done some nice HAND-MADE but also some scrap chinese staff, when i talk with him some days ago, him offer to me buy the DRAGONFLY copy, so i tell him, hey man, u done machines, why u wanna sale a chinese copy ? him say that him change the chinese motor with a better MAXON, i say, ok, but still chinese copy, so him start say all the strange staff about him don believe in copyright, and all stupid things like that
i tell him , what u think that some other people copy your machines, look correct ? him say don care
i mean is strange way to think that u realy spend a lot of time on build machines
ok everything around the world is MADE IN CHINA, sure, but one thing is MADE, one thing is COPY , u don think the same?
that u buy NIKE shoes, inside have MADE IN CHINA, u know the NIKE is AMERICAN, rite ? that u buy PAOLO CRUZES machines u think is made from him in UK or whatever him live but not realy like this, this is what i don realy like

maybe im wrong, this is my point of view, maybe becouse i spend a lot of time to build machines, but im sure many other good builders around the world think same as me