Looks like a Dragonfly

[wildboy]

I like the machine, Dino is a good builder. Don't know how the frames are made ,you have to put them side by side to see the subtle differences,I might take some pictures for you. Anyone who owns a DF will give credit to the Swiss company that created them, I certainly do, I have the short stroke, it's the best B&G machine I've ever used by a mile.
Now getting back to frames how many generic versions have we seen of Jensen,Rogers,Jonesy, etc,etc,etc. I see them more of a tribute really.

The old masters arent around anymore to build them themselves and most of the time the machines are named after the builder the original frame style came from to give them credit...

Ive read nothing but good things about Dinos machines so far I would buy one myself maybe.

I thought the dragonfly was from Sweden. I also thought that the Swiss comment was target at the stealth.

It was... Its hard to keep track with all the off topic about nazis, hippies, filip leu, knockoff machines, switzerland, pornography and all that ^^

[Jim]

Hitler stole the swastika from the Bon religion, in Buddhism it represents the mind seal of enlightenment. There are many large Buddha statues in the East that have the Buddha with a swastika on his chest. Despite it's original roots the symbolism has become tainted as well as the Toothbrush style mustache. As for hipster kooks no one cares about them...their goal isn't educating the masses but a stupid game they play. There will always be rip offs it seems, at least people using a frame like Rogers say it's a Rogers or keep the name like bull dog for a bull dog style frame. I personally think other than the Swiss cross on the chuck the Stealth is almost visually indistinguishable from the Swiss rotary. The success of the Swiss ripoff has made the practice into a successful frame work for others to do exactly the same thing with other companies lines of machines. Of course one could say it's the companies fault for not getting international design patients and fiercely protecting their intellectual property, it's a legal monopoly that shouldn't be over looked.

[slicksteel]

Seems like the Stealth is the only acceptable knock off out there...

I think maybe because they started making there version before the swiss was realy popular-they have put alot of money+time in marketing it and copyrighting it. If anything it bought biz to the swiss original in the states as alot of lic tattooers have bought the stealh and liked it so much that they end up buying the original.I also think the original is very high priced for such a simple basic machine and it would sell better if it was a bit lower in price.This design is not new tattooers have home built rotarys like this for years in canada and the uk were rotarys have been king.

[wildboy]

That makes a lot of sense...

[peter clements]

I think maybe because they started making there version before the swiss was realy popular-they have put alot of money+time in marketing it and copyrighting it. If anything it bought biz to the swiss original in the states as alot of lic tattooers have bought the stealh and liked it so much that they end up buying the original.I also think the original is very high priced for such a simple basic machine and it would sell better if it was a bit lower in price.This design is not new tattooers have home built rotarys like this for years in canada and the uk were rotarys have been king.

Let's not forget the Peter Tieg machine of Germany it's supposed to be the Rolls Royce of this type of Rotary. I have one that's not getting used, it'll be coming up for sale soon .

[No Iron Machines]

THIS MTF IS PAOLO CRUZES, all his staff his MADE IN CHINA, and him resale and say are build from him, i talk with him on FB, is retard, one of the worst people ever talk about TATTOO MACHINES, is worst than chinese him...

[robinTS]

this is chinese??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZNFmg53zag

[MatFink]

dude claims to be the original creator of dot work tattooing at the end of that vid.

[OwlsDen]

dude claims to be the original creator of dot work tattooing at the end of that vid.

I wonder is we can borrow his time machine

[punkangel]

dude claims to be the original creator of dot work tattooing at the end of that vid.

To Be Fair this is Xed Lehead, yep i would say he was a forerunner if not the first, to popularise the dot!! the machine is a paulo, and imho he makes well liked and great coils even if th eframes are made in China (so is a Gibson Guitar).

But this is why i first made a post about it, it is sad that he should do this with a blatant copy, If it had th esame princables and a complete different look, then i would understand putting a Maxon power unit, and up against the best, or even talking with chinese manufacturers about changing design.
Seems that he is at the moment on tour, n probley dont give a fuck,
to alter a chinese machine for yourself is great if it works for you, but to sell and compete it against its original (without so much as a design plan), as a dragonfly Replica, is out of the boundry. and puts Art into profit greed!!!