Looks like a Dragonfly

[aurelien]

but when you look at the body of the machine where the swastikas are, you can see the stripes. so if he did buil the body, why make stripes if it's gonna be in the way of your design ?

[Panos tattoo]

RIpping off is not the same as inspiring - its one thing to use another s art as inspiration, and totally different to copy and change a few things.

That being said - tattooing with no clipcord cover in a carpeted room, with sandels on doesn't put you high on the "ethical" list for me.

How did you get in here - everything in you profile points to a scratcher

you understood what i ment by separeting inspiring and rip off.this is what i was trying to explain but my english are horrible because its not my language.im not saying that you or i have it as a habbit but i have the balls though to admit that i did tattoos of famus artists in my early years of tattooing because i admire their art and inspiration and i wish i had their talend at the time. they were ages infrond of you and me and everyone else who is biching and act like divas for something i said and i insist that most of you did it even if you are ibarassed to admit it .or should i belive that you were born with a tattoo machine in your hand and knew the unwriten laws of tattooing and ethics?where the hell did you saw a carpeted room,? i dont have a clue.why the fuck do you care if i ware sandals?bacteria thrive on sandals and they try to avoid shoes?or do you sterilize your shoes before you go home?I LIVE IN AN ISLAND WITH TEMPERATURES OF 50 DEGRECE CELCIUS IN THE SUMMER MORON!! does that make me a scratcher?
and i got here the same way you did!!!at least peezie said speak for your self because i dont agree with you ,without any insults or being snootily.in my opinion its dicks like you who should be banned from forums because you judge someone without knowing him. now did you like the way i spoke to you and do you want to bring this conversation on an even lower level? or do you want to apologise and refrase your earlier comment?

[nivek]

you understood what i ment by separeting inspiring and rip off.this is what i was trying to explain but my english are horrible because its not my language.im not saying that you or i have it as a habbit but i have the balls though to admit that i did tattoos of famus artists in my early years of tattooing because i admire their art and inspiration and i wish i had their talend at the time. they were ages infrond of you and me and everyone else who is biching and act like divas for something i said and i insist that most of you did it even if you are ibarassed to admit it .or should i belive that you were born with a tattoo machine in your hand and knew the unwriten laws of tattooing and ethics?where the hell did you saw a carpeted room,? i dont have a clue.why the fuck do you care if i ware sandals?bacteria thrive on sandals and they try to avoid shoes?or do you sterilize your shoes before you go home?I LIVE IN AN ISLAND WITH TEMPERATURES OF 50 DEGRECE CELCIUS IN THE SUMMER MORON!! does that make me a scratcher?
and i got here the same way you did!!!at least peezie said speak for your self because i dont agree with you ,without any insults or being snootily.in my opinion its dicks like you who should be banned from forums because you judge someone without knowing him. now did you like the way i spoke to you and do you want to bring this conversation on an even lower level? or do you want to apologise and refrase your earlier comment?

Hardly so, son. We did NOT come up the same way, my mentor would have torn a strip out of me if I boosted someone elses design and called it mine, or tattooed in a roomed carpet without a clipcord cover and wore sandals. Sandals are carpet are NOT allowed in professional tattoo shops in any state or province I know of due to health concerns. So that's what points to scratcher to me, hey I hope I am wrong - but if I am - I HIGHLY recommend you look into getting some reading regarding blood borne pathogens before that carpet becomes a life form.

1) I have shoes that I wear for the shop and at the shop. Sandals are stupid in a shop because you are putting yourself at risk - drop a dirty needle on your foot sometime, then see how you feel about it.
2) You are tattooing on CARPET - and that is a no no for many reasons, if you need it explained - then maybe you shouldn't be tattooing.
3) If you honestly think wearing sandals is cooling you down, good for you - might I suggest you invest in an air-conditioner ? If you are a pro its a write off
4) Flash is flash - its not YOUR art, yes I have done flash - but I don't call it my art, I call it flash.

Fine I'm a dick - I care about not killing myself or a client due to dirty working conditions, I didn't insult you I said - sandal and carpet point to scratcher because of the same reasons mentioned above. You read a LOT into three lines of text, impressive.

I'm not going to waste my time arguing with someone over the internet, this forum or otherwise, people don't change. As for where I saw the picture - it was in your facebook profile that you posted on your profile in here. I hope its an old one or the wrong one - and if it is - I suggest you add an actual link in your profile, because the one that comes up is not helping your cause.

I hope that I am wrong and the profile I found is an older one, judging by your newer work I would say so, however dickish I may come across the simple reality is we are all human and we all make mistakes - as long as we make an effort to learn from them. Mind you by your own admission you are tattooing in sandals in carpeted room.

*edited in an attempt to add a bit of humility and a bit less reactionary, but probably failed*

[fkirons]

Off topic, but this made me think that most tattoo conventions are carpeted. Some of them not even covered.

[nivek]

Yeah - many do. Mind you then tend to avoid shag carpeting. Is it ideal - no, but you're gonna have a hard time getting the Hilton to rip up the carpeting.

Good point none the less.

[Panos tattoo]

Hardly so, son. We did NOT come up the same way, my mentor would have torn a strip out of me if I boosted someone elses design and called it mine, or tattooed in a roomed carpet without a clipcord cover and wore sandals. Sandals are carpet are NOT allowed in professional tattoo shops in any state or province I know of due to health concerns. So that's what points to scratcher to me, hey I hope I am wrong - but if I am - I HIGHLY recommend you look into getting some reading regarding blood borne pathogens before that carpet becomes a life form.

1) I have shoes that I wear for the shop and at the shop. Sandals are stupid in a shop because you are putting yourself at risk - drop a dirty needle on your foot sometime, then see how you feel about it.
2) You are tattooing on CARPET - and that is a no no for many reasons, if you need it explained - then maybe you shouldn't be tattooing.
3) If you honestly think wearing sandals is cooling you down, good for you - might I suggest you invest in an air-conditioner ? If you are a pro its a write off
4) Flash is flash - its not YOUR art, yes I have done flash - but I don't call it my art, I call it flash.

Fine I'm a dick - I care about not killing myself or a client due to dirty working conditions, I didn't insult you I said - sandal and carpet point to scratcher because of the same reasons mentioned above. You read a LOT into three lines of text, impressive.

I'm not going to waste my time arguing with someone over the internet, this forum or otherwise, people don't change. As for where I saw the picture - it was in your facebook profile that you posted on your profile in here. I hope its an old one or the wrong one - and if it is - I suggest you add an actual link in your profile, because the one that comes up is not helping your cause.

I hope that I am wrong and the profile I found is an older one, judging by your newer work I would say so, however dickish I may come across the simple reality is we are all human and we all make mistakes - as long as we make an effort to learn from them. Mind you by your own admission you are tattooing in sandals in carpeted room.

*edited in an attempt to add a bit of humility and a bit less reactionary, but probably failed*

but its not a carpet and i never admited that.in my profile photo you can barely see my face!!!its my hands and a mikey sharpz machine.were do you see a carpet?are you looking at my profile?my shops floor is black plastic called pirelli( this is how they call it in my country )and its the one you see in hospitals and airports.all the furniture is stainless steel and three quarters of the walls are mirror covered up to 1.80 cm.as for sandals,id like you to visit cyprus during summer and try to ware jeens and shoes.you will die from heat stroke!!!yes i do have an A/C and i also have an air purifier system in order to kill bacteria and wont allow them to get in my AC filter were they can thrive.im not tattooing for a long time but in almost 10 years of tattooing,i ve never dropped a needle or an ink cup on the floor or my shoes,as you did.(you said it in your threat)
again you did understand and you pointed me the word that would rest my case.Flash designs!!!everyone used it and every one wanted to be as talented as the one who drew them.forgive me for not remembering the word flash because first its not my native language,Greek are,and second the last time i used it was in the late
90's were tattoos were eagles killing snakes and panthers hanging on your skin.today im using the word design or project.(no offence in old school tattoo designs)
and last,im not your son.i am Demetris Karallis son.you are a colleague tattoo artist.

[Panos tattoo]

Hardly so, son. We did NOT come up the same way, my mentor would have torn a strip out of me if I boosted someone elses design and called it mine, or tattooed in a roomed carpet without a clipcord cover and wore sandals. Sandals are carpet are NOT allowed in professional tattoo shops in any state or province I know of due to health concerns. So that's what points to scratcher to me, hey I hope I am wrong - but if I am - I HIGHLY recommend you look into getting some reading regarding blood borne pathogens before that carpet becomes a life form.

1) I have shoes that I wear for the shop and at the shop. Sandals are stupid in a shop because you are putting yourself at risk - drop a dirty needle on your foot sometime, then see how you feel about it.
2) You are tattooing on CARPET - and that is a no no for many reasons, if you need it explained - then maybe you shouldn't be tattooing.
3) If you honestly think wearing sandals is cooling you down, good for you - might I suggest you invest in an air-conditioner ? If you are a pro its a write off
4) Flash is flash - its not YOUR art, yes I have done flash - but I don't call it my art, I call it flash.

Fine I'm a dick - I care about not killing myself or a client due to dirty working conditions, I didn't insult you I said - sandal and carpet point to scratcher because of the same reasons mentioned above. You read a LOT into three lines of text, impressive.

I'm not going to waste my time arguing with someone over the internet, this forum or otherwise, people don't change. As for where I saw the picture - it was in your facebook profile that you posted on your profile in here. I hope its an old one or the wrong one - and if it is - I suggest you add an actual link in your profile, because the one that comes up is not helping your cause.

I hope that I am wrong and the profile I found is an older one, judging by your newer work I would say so, however dickish I may come across the simple reality is we are all human and we all make mistakes - as long as we make an effort to learn from them. Mind you by your own admission you are tattooing in sandals in carpeted room.

*edited in an attempt to add a bit of humility and a bit less reactionary, but probably failed*

but its not a carpet and i never admited that.in my profile photo you can barely see my face!!!its my hands and a mikey sharpz machine.were do you see a carpet?are you looking at my profile?my shops floor is black plastic called pirelli( this is how they call it in my country )and its the one you see in hospitals and airports.all the furniture is stainless steel and three quarters of the walls are mirror covered up to 1.80 cm.as for sandals,id like you to visit cyprus during summer and try to ware jeens and shoes.you will die from heat stroke!!!yes i do have an A/C and i also have an air purifier system in order to kill bacteria and wont allow them to get in my AC filter were they can thrive.im not tattooing for a long time but in almost 10 years of tattooing,i ve never dropped a needle or an ink cup on the floor or my shoes,as you did.(you said it in your threat)
again you did understand and you pointed me the word that would rest my case.Flash designs!!!everyone used it and every one wanted to be as talented as the one who drew them.forgive me for not remembering the word flash because first its not my native language,Greek are,and second the last time i used it was in the late
90's were tattoos were eagles killing snakes and panthers hanging on your skin.today im using the word design or project.(no offence in old school tattoo designs)
and last,im not your son.i am Demetris Karallis son.you are a colleague tattoo artist.

[nivek]

Not a threat - and no I have never dropped a needle on my feet, but it can happen - as can spilling rinse cups etc which is why I wear shoes, and the health department requires it, its also whey when I do use a rinse cup its firmly stuck down with a cut 1/2 cup) I promise you, regardless of how hot it was (hey but its okay you have ac) I would ALWAYS wear shoes in a tattoo shop, all it takes is one customer not paying attn or passing out - and one of your machines falling on your foot (may be a long shot but I won't take that chance.)

I'm not going to get lost on a ramble here, obviously you and I have different opinions on safe work environment. Maybe it's a old profile - or not even yours just another dude tattooing without a clip-cord sleeve and it sandals - odd co-incidence. As I said people don't change, and I am not going to bother wasting my time.

I wish you all the best, I hope that you never drop a needle or anything else on your feet, and that contaminated ink and/or blood is not dropping onto your open toed shoes as you work.
I hope one of the two profiles I found wasn't you, and if it isn't, I would suggest you put a link into your profile to your facebook page as the one I found first was the carpeted one, it looks like its got some time on it - there isn't a lot of tattoos on your arm, again, maybe its not you. I hope I am wrong - and if I am, sorry.

I still stand by my comment re sandals, however. I know your are not my son....

Best of luck to you.
Nivek

[Panos tattoo]

Not a threat - and no I have never dropped a needle on my feet, but it can happen - as can spilling rinse cups etc which is why I wear shoes, and the health department requires it, its also whey when I do use a rinse cup its firmly stuck down with a cut 1/2 cup) I promise you, regardless of how hot it was (hey but its okay you have ac) I would ALWAYS wear shoes in a tattoo shop, all it takes is one customer not paying attn or passing out - and one of your machines falling on your foot (may be a long shot but I won't take that chance.)

I'm not going to get lost on a ramble here, obviously you and I have different opinions on safe work environment. Maybe it's a old profile - or not even yours just another dude tattooing without a clip-cord sleeve and it sandals - odd co-incidence. As I said people don't change, and I am not going to bother wasting my time.

I wish you all the best, I hope that you never drop a needle or anything else on your feet, and that contaminated ink and/or blood is not dropping onto your open toed shoes as you work.
I hope one of the two profiles I found wasn't you, and if it isn't, I would suggest you put a link into your profile to your facebook page as the one I found first was the carpeted one, it looks like its got some time on it - there isn't a lot of tattoos on your arm, again, maybe its not you. I hope I am wrong - and if I am, sorry.

I still stand by my comment re sandals, however. I know your are not my son....

Best of luck to you.
Nivek

it must be a huge misunderstanding here because im trying to find this link with the dude you say tattooing on a carpeted room and no tattoos on his arms and i cant find it.i can see my photo though.by the way i have shaved hair and both of my hands are covered with full sleeve tattoos.again you can barely see my face on the photo,just my hands and my miky sharpz tattoo machine.you cant even see the clip cord.as for sandals,its the ones that they ware in surgery rooms and generally in hospitals.comfortable, better for high temperatures,and if its purchased from a medic company that supplies hospitals and clinics,its approved by me.different people,different opinions right?
no hard feelings and im sorry if i behaved as a dick,but it was a reaction because i was insulted for hygene and FLASH DESIGNS(a word that i will always remember now lol)


i have to improve my english and leave google translate alone

[nivek]

Well shit happens, I may not agree with you (re sandals) - but you are not an enemy but any means. I apologize as well, in case you didn't figure it out - I can get a bit head strong at times.

I'll find the link and if it is older stuff of you maybe you can have fb take it down, because it isn't going to help your cause.

Nivek