Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyChaos View Post
can't be much different to the old hawk though is it?
I wont have chance to try mine till tomorrow
it is my first hawk machine. I don't have anything to compare it to. The stroke seems longer than 4mm. Oh, and without the start up cable it is really doesn't wanna start even at higher volts especially when first running the new cartridge... after you run a cartridge more it starts at lower and lower volts.